I knew the cattle boat would be bad...

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Weird. I thought someone might have taught you that, friend to friend and all. We all exchange it at the Scubaboard dinners.

DANG, my wife and I have been around 4 times, maybe that doesn't qualify us because we haven't learned it yet.
 
From the start we've used smaller shops where the ratio of divers to DM's is small. Most of our DM's have been instructors who just can't stop teaching - getting people weighted correctly, pointing out trim issues, working on divers' air consumption, and so on. Most would have slapped our hands if we'd touched a rock. There are some really great dive experiences to be had on the island.

More than once we've been approaching a site or feature when a cattle boat vomits up its load. The DM will usually just signal us to hang back and check out the area while they do their thing. They're usually gone in 20 minutes or so, then we have the place to ourselves again.
 
More than once we've been approaching a site or feature when a cattle boat vomits up its load. The DM will usually just signal us to hang back and check out the area while they do their thing. They're usually gone in 20 minutes or so, then we have the place to ourselves again.


20 minutes? In my experience more like 2.
 
Forgive the newb question but what is everyone's definition of a cattle boat? We were on large boats a few times and had just as a good of experience as on the small boats, about the same amount of divers in the group. It took a little longer to get to some of the further south sites but one day when the wind came up it was worth it.
 
That is a really good question and one you might post in the new divers or basic scuba forum. But since you have posted it here, my definition, as it applies to Cozumel, would be one that has a pile of divers on board, most of whom have little diving experience, who pay little attention to their divers in the water, and who do little, if anything to extend their divers' time underwater. In fact they may do things to minimize that, like suggesting that everyone must ascend at a certain time or when one diver reaches a particular pressure regardless of what remaining divers have time/air left or taking them deep to run their NDL up. Or, as others have mentioned in this thread, vomiting large numbers of divers (usually unskilled) onto a reef where they flail. Or shoot to the surface because they can't clear their mask or whatever. Or the DMs aren't local, don't know the reefs and regularly turnover every few months. Take your pick! Others may chime in but those would be factors in my definition.

Forgive the newb question but what is everyone's definition of a cattle boat? We were on large boats a few times and had just as a good of experience as on the small boats, about the same amount of divers in the group. It took a little longer to get to some of the further south sites but one day when the wind came up it was worth it.
 
That is a really good question and one you might post in the new divers or basic scuba forum. But since you have posted it here, my definition, as it applies to Cozumel, would be one that has a pile of divers on board, most of whom have little diving experience, who pay little attention to their divers in the water, and who do little, if anything to extend their divers' time underwater. In fact they may do things to minimize that, like suggesting that everyone must ascent at a certain time or when one diver reaches a particular pressure regardless of what remaining divers have time/air left or taking them deep to run their NDL up. Or, as others have mentioned in this thread, vomiting large numbers of divers (usually unskilled) onto a reef where they flail. Or shoot to the surface because they can't clear their mask or whatever. Or the DMs aren't local, don't know the reefs and regularly turnover every few months. Take your pick! Others may chime in but those would be factors in my definition.


I was actually considering a trip to Cozumel with my son... Doesn't sound like the place to dive anymore. I dove there 25-30 years ago.. I was not like that.
 
I was actually considering a trip to Cozumel with my son... Doesn't sound like the place to dive anymore. I dove there 25-30 years ago.. I was not like that.
maybe you should just avoid one of the cattle boats. There are SCADS of great ops.
 
I was actually considering a trip to Cozumel with my son... Doesn't sound like the place to dive anymore. I dove there 25-30 years ago.. I was not like that.

While Cozumel topside has changed a LOT in the last 25 years - I started diving there in 1990 - in my opinion the diving is just as good, if not better, with any of dozens of excellent Dive Ops. Avoid the clearly "cattle boat" operators - some have been identified here -- and go with one that gets good reviews here on this Board, and you won't go wrong.
 
I was actually considering a trip to Cozumel with my son... Doesn't sound like the place to dive anymore. I dove there 25-30 years ago.. I was not like that.
Whoa, back the truck up. The conditions we are discussing here are atypical. That's why we are all telling the OP to go back to Cozumel and dive with someone else - just about ANYONE else. I would have thought this was obvious in context, but sometimes things that go without saying need to be said anyway. Cozumel is a safer place to dive than it was 30 years ago and there are a lot of great outfits to dive with.
 
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