TheFoggyMask
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catherine96821:no...
but maybe a little boring?
you might be a little trollish too. PF..is that you?
okay, you got me there for a second.
It would be far more exciting to die?
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catherine96821:no...
but maybe a little boring?
you might be a little trollish too. PF..is that you?
okay, you got me there for a second.
Not any more - not since I screwed my knee up for life.catherine96821:do you ski, or surf, or anything fast?
lamont:I think you, Walter (if that's his opinion) and BIggDawg are completely wrong. I just went through the 2005 DAN report and:
1. the majority of fatalities (50-70%) had only OW or AOW certs.
2. the majority of fatalities (~75%) had less than 20 dives in the prior 12 months.
3. 56% of fatalities were returning to diving after 1 to 4 years.
4. ~60% of fatalities were on dives with a max depth of 60 fsw or less.
5. 88% of fatalities were on 21%, 6% were on 32%, rebreathers and trimix account for the remaining 6%..
k4man:ok, I've read the entire thread from yesterday (or was it two days ago?). And yes, I'm a new member, but I have 2 comments...
1--It seems that some of those posting to this thread have forgotten about when THEY were new divers (in fact, maybe some of you got started doing your OW at the sunny beach resort on vacation)
2--Some of those who start off as 4 to 6 dives-a-year-divers eventually come around. :14: Actually, for years I never touched the water of a lake, quarry, or anything else...and that was fine for me. While I'm still not an expert (yes, I admit to still being able to learn something new from others), I did decide to go through the typical steps of AOW, rescue, Master Diver, and eventually over to the professional side of things. BUT, I remember where I started my diving. Do you?
Kevin
Well said, Mike. The hiring of DMs is a reasonable expedient for those with limited time to cram in as much underwater wonder as is possible on a short yearly vacation. Go directly to the good stuff and pack it in...MikeFerrara:Reading this thread it seems pretty clear that "casual recreational diving" is being closely associated with bad diving. Those who try to address bad diving seem labeled as having something against casual diving or casual divers. That premis is wrong. Casual recreatrional diving can be done well.
BKP:I went looking for these numbers myself, Lamont, out of curiosity, so thanks for posting them. While at first glance, they seem very telling, in order for them to validate anything, you'd have to ask "what percentage do OW and AOW certs make up of the whole?" For instance (and these are hypothetical numbers), if 97% of all "divers" (and I use the term loosely), were only OW or OW/AOW certed, then even though they were 50-70% of the fatalities, that's a relatively small number (for parity, you'd expect them to be 97% of the fatalities)... capiche?
Anyway... I don't mean to digress... just my $.02.