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[H2Andy]

Find out how many Intro divers that DIVING WITHIN Intro limits have died in the same time period. Only then is there even a remotely valid comparison.

you chose not to answer my question.

again, my question was:

ok, please answer me this question:

can you use existing evidence to support the following statement:

diving singles in overhead environment for new, introduction-level
cave divers is more dangerous than diving doubles?

let me ask it another way:

do you have any evidence that diving singles in the overhead environment
is more dangerious than diving doubles for the intro cave diver?

 

[wreckchick]

I'll make it even easier, find out how many divers, regardless of certification level, have died while diving within Intro limits.

R

 

[H2Andy]

LOL

see? your whole argument is based on absolutely, positively no evidence whatsoever

spin all you want

by the way, before you accuse me of "spinning" as well, check out this post:


http://www.scubaboard.com/showpost.php?p=1579296&postcount=81

 

[Soggy]

You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round

 

[H2Andy]

Dead Or Alive Rocks!!!!!

(not really, ok? joke...)

 

[wreckchick]

What I'm trying to point out is that you've shown me no evidence that diving doubles is more harmful than diving singles. You've implied it through stats showing the lack of Intro divers dying on singles, but without figuring out how many divers have died within the appropriate limits, all you've proven is that cave diving is risky, but we all already knew that.

What everyone has tacitly agreed on is that GENERALLY SPEAKING, doubles are a safer configuration. Your arguement has been that Intro divers can't be trusted to stay within their limits which is no fault of the configuration itself, but the mindset of the diver.

R

 

[H2Andy]

What I'm trying to point out is that you've shown me no evidence that diving doubles is more harmful than diving singles.

but since you want to change the rule, the burden is on YOU to show that
diving singles is more dangerous. after all, why change something that
is working, when the results could be deaths? not something to be done
lightly, and in the absence of good evidence.

you dont have good evidence. in fact, you have none. and so far, no intro. diver has died diving singles, which makes your task a whole of a lot harder

 

[wreckchick]

P.S. I have very fond memories of Dead or Alive. Apropos band for this discussion, no?

 

[H2Andy]

Apropos band for this discussion, no?

:rofl:

 

[wreckchick]

Within Intro limits... Within Intro limits... Within Intro limits....

Where are all the dead cave divers on doubles diving within Intro limits?

R