and I think DIR (or how ever you choose to view it) should also be incorporated, i.e. 5' to7' primary hose, a quality alternate with a necklace, etc. ... but of course we now diverge off the topic of this thread. So to get back on topic, I'm amazed that the instruction is to "dive conservative", but really no direction is given in how to do this. PADI and I got into it many years ago and I requested permission on how to give certain suggestions on how to dive conservative .. and I was actually told I could not do it. So I taught the class, issued the certs, and now that class was officially over, I handed out my own guidelines with a signature block for the students to sign acknowledging certain things. I just couldn't not show students what the idea of conservatism meant.iainwilliams:Yes Brian so true. I'm amazing at what some people do and actually get away with it. I beleive that all the DCS risk minimalisation standards should be taught on all courses. Unfortunately this is far from what actually happens - but I guess those keen enough will teach themselves!Enjoy..........Iain
Brian