Just bought some used tanks from a charter captain. When I picked them up, he did a visual for me, which I watched. Only thing of note was that when he filled one off a whip from a full tank, the valve leaked where it mated with the neck. All he did was give the valve a good clockwise whack with his hand to tighten it up, then checked each of the other tanks. Curious, and not knowing any better, I asked if the valves should be tightened with a wrench, as it took one to remove the valves. He said no. It's also worth mentioning that as he vis'd each tank, he replaced each neck O-ring with a new, greased one.
Fast forward a few days later. I gave a few of the tanks to a guy who was going in on the tanks with me, and he took them to Ginnie, where he was diving with his family. When he got them filled there, something real odd happened. He said that the "O-Ring was sticking out of the neck, where the tank and valve meet". Obviously, it was not holding air. He paid the Ginnie shop to do a new vis, and they replaced the O-Ring. No problems from there on out.
Freakier (sp?), on one of the other tanks, his sister did her 2nd dive into the main spring at Ginnie, entering with 1500psi, got to 50ffw, and breathed the last breath from the tank. Her buddy was further than some ajoining stranger, whom she shared with to the surface. She said she heard/saw no bubbles.
Barring the fact that the person I gave the tanks to wants to take all the tanks back, sit them in the seller's front yard and knock the valves off with a sledgehammer, I'd really like to know what might have caused this. I don't know much about tanks, I'm buying my first set after my first year of diving. I'm guesssing:
1) Wrong O-Ring
2) Valves weren't tight enough
3) In the process of mounting the reg, a little ccw 'twist' was applied.
4) O-Ring shouldn't have been greased
5) All newly installed valves are susceptible to unseating until they 'corrode in' a bit
6) Valve should've been installed with locktite
I'm discounting 1, because I saw it installed, and it fit perfect. Looks about 3/16" thick. 2 seems unlikely. and is counter to my own clockwise hand-banging on the valves before I left the seller's place. 3 on is are uneducated guesses.
Do I have a right to be upset? Should I take them back? Should I have another lds re-vis all of them?
Fast forward a few days later. I gave a few of the tanks to a guy who was going in on the tanks with me, and he took them to Ginnie, where he was diving with his family. When he got them filled there, something real odd happened. He said that the "O-Ring was sticking out of the neck, where the tank and valve meet". Obviously, it was not holding air. He paid the Ginnie shop to do a new vis, and they replaced the O-Ring. No problems from there on out.
Freakier (sp?), on one of the other tanks, his sister did her 2nd dive into the main spring at Ginnie, entering with 1500psi, got to 50ffw, and breathed the last breath from the tank. Her buddy was further than some ajoining stranger, whom she shared with to the surface. She said she heard/saw no bubbles.
Barring the fact that the person I gave the tanks to wants to take all the tanks back, sit them in the seller's front yard and knock the valves off with a sledgehammer, I'd really like to know what might have caused this. I don't know much about tanks, I'm buying my first set after my first year of diving. I'm guesssing:
1) Wrong O-Ring
2) Valves weren't tight enough
3) In the process of mounting the reg, a little ccw 'twist' was applied.
4) O-Ring shouldn't have been greased
5) All newly installed valves are susceptible to unseating until they 'corrode in' a bit
6) Valve should've been installed with locktite
I'm discounting 1, because I saw it installed, and it fit perfect. Looks about 3/16" thick. 2 seems unlikely. and is counter to my own clockwise hand-banging on the valves before I left the seller's place. 3 on is are uneducated guesses.
Do I have a right to be upset? Should I take them back? Should I have another lds re-vis all of them?