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What to Consider as a New Student to Diving?

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by GDI, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. k ellis

    k ellis Divemaster

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
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    There really is no law about diving without a certification but its extremely unwise to not get the basics first. As far as Asthma id check with your doctor first because asthma attacks underwater can be extremely unforgiving too.

    Its possible to dive with an asthma history but your doctor is the one who should say yes or no. this is one reason they have medical questionaires.

    Besides the no brainer that the classes are extremely benieficial they also introduce you to many fellow divers :)

    Now as for diving with a more experienced diver question...... there are those who are experienced and remember what it was like to be a new diver and are extremely attentive to the situation but all to often more veteran divers tend to see newer divers as a nuisance or they will talk up stories of how they have been around the world yet they cant say with honesty they would be able to handle a true life or death situation.
     
  2. k ellis

    k ellis Divemaster

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Oklahoma
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    Hey you may not be a pro but your 100 percent correct in your statements :) scuba is one of the safest sports in existance when everything is correct however even a minor medical emergency 100 feet underwater can be as serious as a massive heartattack on land. Doctors are the only way to go when it comes to medical considerations.

    Also not giving medical advice on a forum is a good decision as I have witnessed first hand so many people call doctors on the phone and attempt to get FREE medical advice over the phone. While it makes sense to want something for free ones life is not something they should try to skirt corners with :)

    Besides most hospitals and doctors wont give advice any way but face to face due to liability reasons :)
     
  3. dpaustex

    dpaustex Instructor, Scuba

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    As an instructor, and with a family full of divers, I'd say you'd have to be pretty hard-up not to take lessons. I just don't get someone not wanting to spend a mere $200 for good lessons/training. Is your life worth $200? In lessons, you get full instruction into how your body reacts to the physics of diving, you learn good skills, you learn to dive safely, and you learn to do it all correctly.

    Most places will not rent you gear or tanks without a certification. It would be like giving you a car with no training, then you thinking you can safely drive on the interstate - instantly - with no lessons or training.

    Can't really believe someone would risk their own life, and that of their buddy, by not taking lessons. Simply inconceiveable.
     
  4. bowlofpetunias

    bowlofpetunias Oh no, not again! Staff Member

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Sydney Australia
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    Some asthmatics can dive safely but you will only know if that applies to you after adequate medical evaluation and advice. Not all doctors know about the risks associated with diving so I would suggest more than a chat with your own GP.

    If you have a bronchiospasm or mucus blocks one of your air passages during a dive air can be trapped and expand within your lungs rupturing lung tissue. You need to have a thorough and honest evaluation to know if it is safe for you to dive.

    I hope your asthma can be managed to dive safely. Please do not take any chances that may risk your life or mean that you destroy any chance that you will be able to dive
     
  5. Scubadam

    Scubadam Nassau Grouper

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    This is all true, thanks GDI!!
     
  6. denisem228

    denisem228 Guest

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: TEXAS
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    I have been certifed for 15 years, but have not got to dive in Cozumel for a number of years. I am really sorta of scared now, a man died on an ascent, and then I have these stories about the current taking you out to sea..and I don't remember being scared at all the first 5 years we dove there..but I am kinda freaked out. I can not wait to to dive again in the ocean. I am diving with Scuba Mau and have heard they are really professional and take fewer divers, 5-6 instaed 10-14. I dive all over the area here, lakes, dive parks, etc. I want to dive safe, lots of fish, corel etc, I don't care about going 100', just a nice dive..I don't remember them calling them anything but dives, now the boards are talking about drift dives and wall dives,and I'm thinking, what are they talking about..help diving friends
     
  7. pir8

    pir8 NAUI Instructor

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
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    If you're really freaked out about it, I would reccommend taking a Scuba Review with a Professional and talking with them about your concerns. The fact that you are concerned is a good sign. Of course I would think that if you are diving lakes consistantly then you should be fine. One man dying on an ascent only sounds like a small part of the story.
     
  8. DivemasterDennis

    DivemasterDennis DivemasterDennis ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
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    Student divers should also always expect that you must do your reading and quiz taking before class sessions to get the most our of both classroom and pool sessions. Be Prepared! You are investing time and money to get a credential that says you can dive. Diving is very cool and fun, and not cheap. get you money's worth by reading your materials and being prepared for class. The you will ask important qquestions. Then you will be more comfortable and at ease.
    DivemasterDennis
     
  9. feelingold

    feelingold Garibaldi

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: CA
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    I'm in my early fifties, in reasonable, but not top shape, and I quit after the first of four open water dives. I was just too tired. If your class is structured with two closed water dives in 8 mil wetsuits with lots of time standing around with equipment on, you may be gassed by the time you first enter the pool. After completing the drills, you get to shed the wetsuit and do your 200M swim and then tread water. If your open water dives are at a beach with a long equipment walk followed by working your way through surf and paddling out to a dive ring, you had better be in much better than average shape. Remember, you have to paddle and walk back with the equipment, rest a bit, and then do it again. I did resort diving in my 30's with no problem and thought I'd get the Padi Open Water before a vacation where I wanted to dive again. I passed the written and survived the pool, but the hike to and from the open water decent point was too much. In hindsight, I should have found a class that wasn't as time compressed and physically demanding. I didn't appreciate the demands. Mea culpa?
     
  10. Quero

    Quero Will be missed Rest in Peace

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
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    Why don't you ask for a referral, feelingood? That way you can credit your classroom and pool training towards your full certification by doing your open water dives at your vacation destination rather than at home. In many ways it's easier since you may have boat dives (no long walks carrying gear), and you won't have to lung around as much lead weight since your wetsuit will be thinner. Just ask your local dive shop/instructor to fill out the paperwork for the referral and present it to a cooperating dive shop at your destination.
     

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