Lets see, you can certify OW in two days, toss in AOW on the same vacation, fish identification, boat, rescue, altitude, nitrox, national geopgraphic, some more DM led dives, possibly with swim throughs or caverns or possibly into a cave, and this diver is now a Master Scuba Diver. They are told what wonderful divers they are already, and dive training is so very unnecessary for them because they are at the pinnacle themselves with minimal effort, why should cave diving be any different. Now you have two arrogant elitists discussing a topic, and you know that won't go well.
Is it my imagination or is the increase in cave diving death coinciding with the shorter OW classes which have trimmed out the water skills and shortened the classroom time.
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Bob, I assume you meant 2 days in the pool and another 2 days checkout dives. Still, what you say make sense to me. As a MSD and later DM, I NEVER consider entering a cave. Maybe VERY limited wreck penetration if so motivated (I am a certified PADI Wreck Diver, and penetrated the "wreck" at Vortex Spring for the cert.! Hmmm. --haven't done it yet--no shells to collect in there that I can't get outside). Go in a cave unqualified-- you're on your own.
