smoking on a dive boat
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Normally I dont respond to smoking/non smoking threads but today, for whatever reason I felt like it.
First, I am a former smoker. Second, I could care less if a person smokes or not. Third, I dont consider smokers to be weak, additive, social outcasts, sub-human or people with no will power. Their smoking is their choice. My choice is to either avoid the smoker and thereby forfeit meeting and interacting with someone who may very well be a fascinating person to know or spend a few minutes talking to them and getting to know the person.
Please spare me the you dont believe smoking is addictive? responses as we all know it is. However, If a smoker wants to smoke and it is legal or permitted, then if the smoke bothers me, Ill either move away or if thats not an option, I will politely ask them not to smoke another when they are finished.
Key to this is where it is legal, permitted and using common courtesy. When I smoked, if someone was polite, I was happy to comply. However, when they acted indignant, arrogant, impolite or just plane mean, my reaction was usually mirrored back.
Bob has it right in that given an option today of going on a charter that permitted smoking, well then I knew what the situation was when I booked it.
First, I am a former smoker. Second, I could care less if a person smokes or not. Third, I dont consider smokers to be weak, additive, social outcasts, sub-human or people with no will power. Their smoking is their choice. My choice is to either avoid the smoker and thereby forfeit meeting and interacting with someone who may very well be a fascinating person to know or spend a few minutes talking to them and getting to know the person.
Please spare me the you dont believe smoking is addictive? responses as we all know it is. However, If a smoker wants to smoke and it is legal or permitted, then if the smoke bothers me, Ill either move away or if thats not an option, I will politely ask them not to smoke another when they are finished.
Key to this is where it is legal, permitted and using common courtesy. When I smoked, if someone was polite, I was happy to comply. However, when they acted indignant, arrogant, impolite or just plane mean, my reaction was usually mirrored back.
Bob has it right in that given an option today of going on a charter that permitted smoking, well then I knew what the situation was when I booked it.
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If smoke bothers you more than deisel fumes....and you wre obviously at the back of the boat....why not just move away from them both....everyone has annoying habits....
the my rights out do your rights is the most annoying habit....it is the reason why so few can make things miserable for so many.....
If you can stand somewhwere else and let the smoker enjoy his cigar or what ever....why would you not?
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I have been on hundreds of vessels and smoking on-board varies from ship to ship, so to speak. At the end of the day, the questions as to smoke or not to smoke and where is it permitted all can be answered by one man...you captain.
He has the final say so as to whether or not you can smoke and where on board it is permitted. He should take into fact a few things such as size of vessel, number of guest, make it top deck only, and possiblities of fire at sea due to a mishap with the cigar/cigarette. He, if a worthy captain, will then make the call about smoking. Good luck, and try talking to the captain directly and in person, but not complaining like a "you know what":14:...and you'll get alot further that way with which ever you are, a smoker or non-smoker.
BTW...most captains and seamen, and dive instrucotrs for that matter, I know... all smoke. 
He has the final say so as to whether or not you can smoke and where on board it is permitted. He should take into fact a few things such as size of vessel, number of guest, make it top deck only, and possiblities of fire at sea due to a mishap with the cigar/cigarette. He, if a worthy captain, will then make the call about smoking. Good luck, and try talking to the captain directly and in person, but not complaining like a "you know what":14:...and you'll get alot further that way with which ever you are, a smoker or non-smoker. BTW...most captains and seamen, and dive instrucotrs for that matter, I know... all smoke. 
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Medically speaking, you're now classified as a non-smoker.....(6 mo. is the cutoff).....
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AGAIN, the problem is that non-smokers can smell smoke from a mile away and the wind direction doesn't solve the issue at all times. Smoke and Diesel fumes travel (both in gaseous form) and while the diesel stinks, we CHOOSE to and know that we will have to smell it but we don't CHOOSE to enjoy your nasty, stinky, smelly, killing habit that works its way into the inside of our bodies without our permission. I can smell cigarettes and fumes anywhere on the boat regardless of the wind direction on most days. Gas is funny that way.
And like I said, my friend's baby smells like an ash tray ALL THE TIME and my friend swears he never smokes around his poor ashtray smelling baby. He is either lying or his sense of smell and judgment perhaps are warped by his NEED to smoke parliament lights. While his baby can't defend itself, yet
, I can and will. For crying out loud, just the fact that he smokes parliament lights tells me he is ADDICTED and no longer chooses to smoke but NEEDS to smoke.
Sad really.My rights don't fly through the air and invade lung tissue without permission but a smoker's does. When you can find a smokeless cigarette then you are truly being a considerate smoker.
If your nasty habit was pooping on shoe's instead of smoking, should I have to nicely ask you not to poop on my shoe AFTER you started to be a considerate non-smoker/non-shoe pooper? Hey, at least your poop wouldn't cause cancer and enter my body, so that's something.
You may not miss work because of your addiction but, if you're honest, you do spend a great deal of time planning your life around your smoking.
....Gotta stop by the store on the way home and buy a pack or I'll run out before morning.
....Should have enough time between flights to make it out to the sidewalk for a quick smoke and get back through security before my next flight boards.
....Can't stay at that hotel, they don't allow smoking.
....We'll wait for a table in the smoking section.
It goes on and on.
You're right, they're not addictive, they're just plain nasty. I'm not looking down on smokers, I feel sorry for them. Up until two years ago I was a smoker/drug addict too and I know how bad it is and how tough it is to quit. I also see now that even though I considered myself a considerate smoker, the smoke is really annoying and offensive to nonsmokers.
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