DIR- GUE Why are non-GUE divers so interested in what GUE does?

[Gone for diving]

As is clearly covered in fundamentals

Haven't done fundamentals.
Last I remember was G3 bakers dozen I think it was...
I wear 2 so I don't have to rely on one...
But for any serious dive I agree a look at table would be smart before you start.

But good to see that thought process has changed...

 

[crofrog]

Haven't done fundamentals.
Last I remember was G3 bakers dozen I think it was...
I wear 2 so I don't have to rely on one...
But for any serious dive I agree a look at table would be smart before you start.

But good to see that thought process has changed...

It’s not looking at a table, it’s generating a table for the dive

 

[PfcAJ]

I know the deco before I do the dive. Every time. That’s what I mean by “don’t rely on it”. If the computer says something wacky, I can catch it.

I’ve got stack of tables for different depth/time combos. Whichever is relevant for the dive, I reference beforehand and keep it in my wetnotes ready to go. If I’m doing something unique, I’ll create a custom table for that specific situation usually with a range of times and some depth contingencies.

 

[Gone for diving]

If the computer says something wacky, I can catch it

Not trying to be silly here... but how often does this happen?
If you are using similar deco models should be very close.. how is your software any safer than a dive computer software?

 

[kierentec]

Not trying to be silly here... but how often does this happen?
If you are using similar deco models should be very close.. how is your software any safer than a dive computer software?

Lots.
A computer is only as smart as the person operating it. I’ve seen loads of experienced tech divers input gasses wrong, forget to switch, etc. If you know what the deco should be, you’ll realize something is off with the computer if all else is going to plan.

 

[Gone for diving]

But that can happen with or without a dive computer... forgetting a gas switch messes with the table... and or a computer..

 

[PfcAJ]

Not trying to be silly here... but how often does this happen?
If you are using similar deco models should be very close.. how is your software any safer than a dive computer software?

Some. Like Jon said, at least with the Shearwaters, it’s usually my fault if it says somethin wrong. Missed telling the computer I switched, wrong gases inputted, etc.

Tables are fixed, I don’t have much of anything going on when I’m generating them. They’re static.

 

[kierentec]

But that can happen with or without a dive computer... forgetting a gas switch messes with the table... and or a computer..

Sorry, I meant forgetting to change the computer after a gas switch.

 

[Ayisha]

If GUE now support sidemount this shows evolution in adopting appropriate technologies that aren’t only for big caves.

I believe that WKPP/DIR/GUE exploration divers were using sidemount even over 20 years ago.

But I agree that there's formal training and support now for those who meet the prerequisites.

 

[Wibble]

As is clearly covered in fundamentals

Fundies dives are shallow NDL. Quite different from decompression dives which are frequently deeper..

Tables are primary. Computers are fine so long as you don’t come to rely on them. Lots of us have been running shearwaters for quite some time now.

Great example of differences.

How does that work? For instance wreck is deeper by 10m/33ft (scar, interesting stuff on bottom, poor survey, etc.), do you use the TTS to alter the bottom time (important for deeper dives)?