sylvester
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If the walls around the spring are solid, why dont you go to an REI type store and pick up a rock climbing anchor or 2 (primary and back up) and insert it in to a crack or 2, to create a solid anchor point at the depth you desire?
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sylvester:If the walls around the spring are solid, why dont you go to an REI type store and pick up a rock climbing anchor or 2 (primary and back up) and insert it in to a crack or 2, to create a solid anchor point at the depth you desire?
Both using AL80's, David's were more pumped than mine (3100 or 3000 - cant recall now - data no longer needed in my head), mine were only at 2700 on entry, so at the turn i was about 1900 (planned on 1800) and David was at his 900psi third point so we turned. If i had a full fill (thanks again LDS!!) we might have got an extra minute or two at depth (but also getting down quicker might have helped, as would knowing where our placements might have been) before needing to turn on pressure, but we were close to our agree BT, so it wouldnt have made that much difference anyway.Wendy:Were you and your buddy both using the same size tanks?
It is a state park, there is graffiti on the walls (which it was nice not to see after we got below 80 or so!!) and i dont like the idea of going in an adding more disruption, not to mention the time needed to put in some form of anchor on our limited dive time at that kind of depth. If i had used my tanks on saturday as i had been meaning too i would have had a nitrox fill and our NDL would have been ok, probably would have got a full fill as we would have used another LDS and so our dive might have been longer. I dont know the legal aspects of adding these kinds of things to a state park (i know they really only own the land up to the water level, but i still am not sure its a wise thing) or the ethics of doing so with this or other caverns. I have contemplated if this was a possibility once a while back, but it didnt cross my mind prior to this trip as i was trying to use the natural features as best i could.sylvester:If the walls around the spring are solid, why dont you go to an REI type store and pick up a rock climbing anchor or 2 (primary and back up) and insert it in to a crack or 2, to create a solid anchor point at the depth you desire?
I have, it was about the same kind of topic and got jettisoned into the ether a month ago or so. I know Wendy is concerned for the safety of divers going into caverns and i promise before diving (wherever that might be) i do check things and we do have plans, maybe not as intricate as some, but they cover the main topics and points of concern on said dives. I prefer not to explain every move i make in my life, how happy might i be on judgement day with that kind of attitude :11: but even so life goes on, i am on a learning curve (i hope i never quite reach the top of that one!) and things arent quite 100% as a more experienced cavern/cave diver might have them, but i am aiming to be there in all that i do. A few handy helpful bits of advice arent bad and of course calling on unsafe attitudes/practices (in the right way of course) should only improve my diving over time. I am still at the bottom of this learning curve, but each dive helps me up a little and gives me new experience in what there is to learn as well as reinforcing the idea that i have/am developing some of the skills required to do this type of diving in this type of environment.NetDoc:Gee Sim...
I don't think I have seen a dive report so closely scrutinized!
sylvester:Wendy, Simbrook, just to clarify the anchors I was speaking about are not permanant nor are they destructive to the enviorment they are easily removed no hammering drilling etc required.