I think it will bw good for folks in the N west coast area. Being able to take a class w/ out the investment in gear. Im sure that gear will be talked about in class and their appetites for such training and equipment will be increased.
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CIBDiving:Andrew may have a legal problem with useing that name and then again maybe not.
I can't see GUE ( or any Reputable agency ) terminateing an Instructor just because they teach for someone else also. How many GUE instructors are also naui or padi or whoever's instructors also? As long as they don't issue a GUE 'cert' with the course, they haven't violated anything that GUE could disqualify them for.
Certainly a better idea than the pass/fail thing. After all, it takes two to fail a course; the instructor to fail to teach the skills and the student to fail to learn them.boomx5:As I understand it, it's pretty much like the Fundamentals class was before GUE made it a pass/fail. Personally, I like the workhops because they take they stress out of passing and "can" be more condusive to learning. Oh, and yes, 5thd-X does have two very good GUE instructors who are in good standing with GUE.
... and if 90% are failing it certainly suggests the fault lies with either the course or the instructors.kidspot:I was told that as many as 90% of all divers taking DIR-F do not pass, this is Andrew's answer to that problem. I for one hope it is a big success!
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90% are failing to display the level of skill required to take Tech 1.BarryNL:... and if 90% are failing it certainly suggests the fault lies with either the course or the instructors.
Ah, but is the goal of the course to train them to this level? If not then that's fine. If so then it sounds like the course is very poorly designed.jonnythan:90% are failing to display the level of skill required to take Tech 1.
It's not. It's a 2.5 day workshop class. You may possibly demonstrate that level of skill by the end of the two and a half days, in which case you "pass," but you are by no means expected to. You go in with PADI skills, you can't expect to have GUE Tech 1 skills dialed in after a mere 4 dives.BarryNL:Ah, but is the goal of the course to train them to this level?
BarryNL:Ah, but is the goal of the course to train them to this level? If not then that's fine. If so then it sounds like the course is very poorly designed.
Some DIRFer recently said to me, when they heard I was signed up for the 5thD Nov. class, "If you're lucky, you won't pass on the first go, and you'll be able to come back for the re-evaluation."Uncle Pug:Fundamentals was never intended to *magically* impart the skills... it was intended to show people what skills were require and give them a means to aquire those skills through practice.