"Frameless" Masks --- Field of Vision???

Discussion in 'Fins, Masks and Snorkels' started by RDP, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. RDP

    RDP Barracuda

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    I am looking at frameless masks due to the claimed better field of vision. I understand the idea; eyes closer to lense = wider viewing angle. I am wondering about the opinions of real world users. What do you think?

    Also, has anyone used the masks with the led's on the frame?
     
  2. Dan Gibson

    Dan Gibson Divemaster

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    I use the SP Framless and won't go back to anything else. There are cheap knockoffs, but I was not happy with them. One even smelled like someone was smoking when it was brand new and had fogging problems. Never could get it to stop fogging up. This mask fits my face perfectly.

     
  3. GoBlue!

    GoBlue! Manta Ray

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    I have the SP frameless (second mask purchase), and love it. Low-volume, sleak, good range of vision. I don't have much use for the little side windows you see on other masks, as my prescription's pretty strong, so those were just a big blur anyway. Some like the light coming in through the sides, but personally I don't mind at all having a black skirt around the outside & just a clear pane directly in front of the eyes. I suggest you try one out & see how you like it....

    Jim
     
  4. No Fish

    No Fish Scuba Instructor

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    Perhaps was it a oceanic mini-shadow? I have one and it smelled like old armpit for the longest time. Still fogs easy.
     
  5. Dan Gibson

    Dan Gibson Divemaster

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    No, I think it was something like Sea Dive or some other brand name like that. It took over a year in the pool to get rid of the smell. The skirt is not quite as nice as my SP Framless. It has become a little stiffer over time and leaks more easily.

     
  6. RDP

    RDP Barracuda

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    When you guys refer to the "SP" mask, are you refering to the Scuba Pro? :06:
     
  7. alpenadiver

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    I just purchased a Cressi Big Eyes mask, very nice field of view, I can actually see my BC , also like the low volume aspect also.

    Mike
     
  8. teknitroxdiver

    teknitroxdiver Great White

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    I just got a X-Vision, it's not really frameless but the lenses are angled so you can't tell it's got a frame. You can see everything!! It's like your not even wearing a mask!

    And it's cheap too: I got it for $69
     
  9. nwdiver2

    nwdiver2 Scuba Instructor

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    I love super low vloume masks that are frameless. They let me get closer to my camera housing to see through the veiwfinder better.
     
  10. Vertigo

    Vertigo Angel Fish

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    One quick exhale through the nose and the Scubapro frameless mask clears completetly. I find there is no pressure on the nose with this mask as well .
    V.
     
  11. paulwlee

    paulwlee Divemaster

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    I have the Oceanic Shadow and it is really nice. I originally got one as a backup to keep in my drysuit pocket, but liked it a lot so got another one to replace my main mask that was starting to fall apart.

    I also took a look at the Scubapro frameless, but liked the Oceanic better. I think the Oceanic has lower volume, although I'm not completely sure. The Mini Shadow has even lower volume, but it probably also has less vertical field of view.

    As for fogging, my first one had the fogging problem, but when I got the other one, I scrubbed it real good with toothpaste/toothbrush and it didn't fog. I guess I needed to use the toothbrush on it as well, not just the toothpaste, as I did with the first one. :)
     
  12. Dan Gibson

    Dan Gibson Divemaster

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    Yes. At least that is what I type to shorten the name.

     
  13. Dan Gibson

    Dan Gibson Divemaster

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    I tried one for a while and really liked the field of vision. The problem was the nose pocket is angle up excessively and it pushed up on the bottom of my nose (btw, my nose isn't big) and gave me a headache. I stopped using it because of that and went to the SP Framless. I have found several people have had the same problem. It's still all about fit when you need to choose a mask.

     
  14. RDP

    RDP Barracuda

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    Thanks everyone that replied.
     

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