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I think stuartv knows, if not call Tobin...
How to assemble DSS backplate and bolt-on weights?
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I think stuartv knows, if not call Tobin...
They won't make it in a padded mailing envelope.
No worries.
Thank you for checking.
That's a great deal, for anyone that wants those plates.
---------- Post added April 2nd, 2015 at 09:43 AM ----------
Well played!
No worries.
Thank you for checking.
That's a great deal, for anyone that wants those plates.
---------- Post added April 2nd, 2015 at 09:43 AM ----------
Well played!
cool_hardware52
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Either your scale is off, or what you have aren't the current 3/8" thick SS plates. Medium plates with fasteners = 8.07 lbs, Large plates with fasteners 8.15 lbs.
We used to offer 1/4" plates, but those would ~2/3 or the above numbers, i.e. 5 ish lbs.
Just don't want somebody to get something other that what they expect.
Tobin
I just put a measuring tape on them and they are 3/8" and at the longest point they are 11-7/8" long and 3-7/8" wide. Not sure what model the set it but I know it came from DSS about 5 or 6 years ago.
cool_hardware52
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Looks like 8.1 lbs weight plates for a medium DSS back plate.
Better calibrate that scale.
Tobin
eelnoraa
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If he doesn't know, it is still NOT Tobin's fault.
Analogy to my own profession. I design SSDs for various usage. There are stacks of prototype on my desk. I usually throw the older prototypes into security trash and they get picked up once a while. Whoever my company hire to pick them up could easily keep them for themselves for even sell them on eBay/Craigslist, and it has happened. If you happen to take your chance and buy one, and have issue, I don't think I or my company are obligated to offer support of any kind at all.
OP
Read my two posts after the post you just responded to.
I called to BUY mounting hardware for the standard bolt-on plates - not the prototypes.
Also, I called the OEM and spoke to them for a grand total of 12 minutes, over 3 calls, roughly half of which was talking to the woman who answered the phone. I called to ask questions about gear they made, which I purchased used. The owner of the company got huffy with me on the phone for taking up 6 minutes of his time to ask him about gear he made, and has now accused me of USING him.
I suspect if I buy a used HOG reg or wing or a ScubaPro reg or an Oceanic computer, and I call any of those companies to ask about the gear I bought, I would not be treated as if I have irritated the person I'm talking to and get accused of using them. I even have this little fantasy that at least some of those companies would treat me as if they are happy to have a new user in the fold and hopeful that a good product and friendly customer service would result in my continued patronage in the future, as well as spreading the good word about them.
Fortunately, I think I'm not really the vindictive or petty type, so despite the way Tobin has spoken to me on the phone and on this forum, I really like my DSS BPW and I have gone out of my way to explain why like it so much, including posting details of the specific features that I think make it stand out, in more than one "what BC should I buy" thread. I think the gear is really good (though I have a couple of very minor nits I'd pick with DSS wings). I think the engineering is really good. I would do a couple of things differently, but I totally respect the reasons Tobin made the choices he made. I think the gear prices are very reasonable. And I think the repair prices are also very reasonable. I'd still recommend a DSS BP/W to anyone (with the full disclosure to them that it's the only BPW I have personally actually used - I'm not an expert and I don't want anyone to have the false impression that I am or that I even think I am).
cool_hardware52
Contributor
Let's run a poll of those who have contacted me for advice about backplates.
Let's see how often the conversation lasts 5-6 minutes.
It doesn't for simple reason I can't explain what *I* think the diver needs to understand about BP&W's in 5 minutes, just does not happen.
I'm pretty damn adamant that my customers understand why I made the recommendation I did, under what conditions the gear I recommended is appropriate, and more importantly under what conditions it may no longer be appropriate.
I remember your calls, you had all sorts of questions about warm water and described your intentions to pursue a "wreck" diving course using a single tank and (shudder) pony bottle.
There is simply no way I'd spend 5 minutes on such a broad range of applications.
Tobin
