LDS VS Internet Sale!!!

[ahava]

I believe he is correct. The fill operator requires hydros and vis on most of my tanks. I have a pony which I fill with an equalizer hose as needed. Hydro and vis on that tank is entirely up to me.

But if you are having a LDS fill a tank they are governed by the DOT and must operate under their regulations. DOT governs all handling and trans. of scuba tanks. So if you want to fill tanks on your own, fine, but when a LDS does it they are under DOT regs. This all goes back to the comment of just buy a compressor and sell air. To which my origional comment was: Its a little more complicated then that. What do you think, the LDS just made this stuff up. Some one requires them to do this stuff.

 

[garyfotodiver]

The DOT requires hydrostatic testing in compressed gas containers at regular intervals. The inspection is a dive industry requirement.

You can find the regulations here: U.S. Department of Transportation / Dockets & Regulations

 

[ZzzKing]

Buy on the internet, die on the internet.

Where you gonna get air?

Where you gonna get training?

Who's gonna love you when your LDS is gone?

Internet gear is fake and there is no warranty.


Good warm up for tomorrow. Thanks

 

[redacted]

What do you think, the LDS just made this stuff up. Some one requires them to do this stuff.

No, I'm sure the LDS did not just make up the requirement for hydros. It's the annual vis requirement that they (the industry) just made up.

 

[ZzzKing]

Bump.

 

[redacted]

Speaking of things LDSs make up, see this link on 6351 tanks: PHMSA - Interpretations by Regulation - Interpretation #04-0168

 

[ZzzKing]

That's where CAR 54 is.....car.....not area......

I thought they were talking about Studio 54.

 

[RAWalker]

Actually I did simplify it a bit.
DOT does get involved for any high pressure cylinder that is to be transported on the roadways but has no authority over individuals transporting them. Further the only time they would have any authority over a fill station is during transport with the valve in place.
And then it is just a matter of having them properly secured for transport and not taking them onto restricted roadways. As for a dive shop the scuba industry does indeed require fill operators to conform to DOT regulations for Hydrostatic testing intervals and further inposes visual inspection to avoid air contamination. A fill operator can fill a tank marked not for scuba diving purposes without inspection of any type for a walk in customer with the tank marked not for scuba without any penalty. These tanks are often used for paint ball or to drive power tools.
So in fact a fill station could fill scuba tanks and ignore the scuba industry at risk of losing accrediation but without legal obligations. Also anyone could set up a mobile fill station and do fills on location without the DOT being involved.
And finally if all you are doing is fills then the scuba industry couldn't regulate you.

 

[redacted]

The DOT requires hydrostatic testing in compressed gas containers at regular intervals. The inspection is a dive industry requirement.

You can find the regulations here: U.S. Department of Transportation / Dockets & Regulations

Its probably easier to find diamonds buried in Tennessee. But thanks anyway

 

[ahava]

. Also anyone could set up a mobile fill station and do fills on location without the DOT being involved.

Now you need a vendors license.