No need to move this thread

[letterboy]

Frankly I wouldn't want to do that... a report is as likely to be "no action" as not. Now if there could be automatic notification of action, that'd be worthwhile
Rick

an automatic action whenever your post is edited?

and maybe with that include the text that the Mod put in the comments box on the deletion page...

 

[ScubaSteve]

While I think it would be great to have an automatic notification sent to the person that a post was edited or deleted, it would still be missing the key element - The WHY. Without that, there really is no hope for people to understand what is going on or why. Take this example that prompted this thread.......I lost all but one of my posts in the thread and the following was the notification that I got as a post from the MOD:

Let's stay on topic, ladies and gentlemen.

Some posts, which have been deemed to be off topic, have been removed.

The matter under discussion is a member's perception and assessment of a dive trip of which he was a member.

What each of us may determine as a major safety issue will certainly vary.

The member has the express right to report the incident as he has experienced it.

There is no need to get into personal bickering.

OK, so this says that "posts that have been deemed off topic have been removed". Well earlier in this thread it was stated that there were posts reported and I was actually just collateral damage. Well, how do I know that? If posts were reported and deleted, and no PM was sent out, how does the person know? I know for a fact mine were on topic but I did respond to the person that called me a (which I am OK with because as I said, I am OK with flavour in my posts).

The bottom line is, if someone is not told they are breaking the rules, it really is possible they did not know. If you tell them, they have the opportunity to correct themselves. Proactive is better than Reactive IMO. And in the long term, likely less work.

 

[Rick Murchison]

an automatic action whenever your post is edited?

and maybe with that include the text that the Mod put in the comments box on the deletion page...

I'm satisfied with the edit explanation box that accompanies any edited post - don't think that needs changing. However, from my perspective what'd be ideal would be an automatic "PM-to-the-author" pop-up whenever a post is deleted. I'd prefer this to automatically sending the delete reason that's recorded because the delete reason is usually less informative than what I'd want to tell the poster, e.g. the delete reason may be "TOS" but what I want to tell the poster is "I deleted your post because you called Joe Blow an idiot. You can't do that, even if it's true."
Rick

 

[ScubaSteve]

I'm satisfied with the edit explanation box that accompanies any edited post - don't think that needs changing. However, from my perspective what'd be ideal would be an automatic "PM-to-the-author" pop-up whenever a post is deleted. I'd prefer this to automatically sending the delete reason that's recorded because the delete reason is usually less informative than what I'd want to tell the poster, e.g. the delete reason may be "TOS" but what I want to tell the poster is "I deleted your post because you called Joe Blow an idiot. You can't do that, even if it's true."
Rick

I just said that and wholly agree Rick.

 

[mike_s]

May I suggest that when the mods mod a moddable thread "

damn... that's a mouthful....

SERIOUS POST WARNING!
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Is there a feature in VB that allows a PM to be sent to a poster when the report button is hit on their post, ie I get "reported" in basic scuba for flaming, I get a short PM saying I a post has been reported? Maybe have an option when a post is reported, flaming, namecalling, off topic, etc. the PM shouldn't include the reporter, or the text box as to why it was reported just that the post was reported with a link to it.

I like this suggestion.

It should include who reported your post. If they don't like it and want to complain about it, then let it be know who it is, instead of this "lurking in the dark" crap.

I've got a feeling this will do away with 90% of the bogus post reporting being done by a select few.

You should probably expand ONESPEEDs PM box before you do this to at least 25,000. . .

He won't read them anyway.... He'll just send out a group reply going "surely you don't expect me to read all that crap, I'm deleting it"

 

[Cave Diver]

I'm satisfied with the edit explanation box that accompanies any edited post - don't think that needs changing. However, from my perspective what'd be ideal would be an automatic "PM-to-the-author" pop-up whenever a post is deleted. I'd prefer this to automatically sending the delete reason that's recorded because the delete reason is usually less informative than what I'd want to tell the poster, e.g. the delete reason may be "TOS" but what I want to tell the poster is "I deleted your post because you called Joe Blow an idiot. You can't do that, even if it's true."
Rick

This is basically the same suggestion I had earlier

Since I'm unfamilair with all the intricacies of the VB software I don't know if this is a viable idea but I have one suggestion. Is it possible to set up an automatic notification system so that when a Mod selects a post to be deleted that it sends a PM to the poster saying "Your post has been deleted by Moderator XXXX?" Perhaps with a box for additional comments?

Then if the poster wants clarification, they know which mod to PM?

But alas...

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A ScubaBoard Staff Message...

This is currently not a feature in vBulletin. AFAIK, there's no such functionality available as third-party software. Which means that it would have to be built as custom development.

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[letterboy]

I'm satisfied with the edit explanation box that accompanies any edited post - don't think that needs changing. However, from my perspective what'd be ideal would be an automatic "PM-to-the-author" pop-up whenever a post is deleted. I'd prefer this to automatically sending the delete reason that's recorded because the delete reason is usually less informative than what I'd want to tell the poster, e.g.

That may work, an auto pop-up like the new feature when you open an attachment. maybe have a check box to send a auto message that is generic depending on the reason for clean-up"Your post is deleted as collateral damage please see mod post in here for more information" or "your post has been removed along with others for review more information will be made available when a decision is made as to the disposition of the posts, thank you and have a GREAT day!". Well you can leave the have a GREAT day part off, but I think it is a nice touch

the delete reason may be "TOS" but what I want to tell the poster is "I deleted your post because you called ONESPEED an idiot. You can't do that, even if it's true."
Rick

 

[letterboy]

This is basically the same suggestion I had earlier



But alas...

sorry for stealing your idea :depressed: please don't report my post. . .


I still think SB should tap into the "nerdier" guys here on SB and have them design VB features for the board. maybe give them an incentive to help design features, like the pop-up auto notification etc. . .

DISCLAIMER: No offense should be taken by anyone who thinks "nerdier" is directed at them, it just means you are very smart.

 

[BDSC]

Diver0001 just as a clarification, why is someone addressing those with opposing views as "all the other idiots on the board" not considered a TOS violation of name calling or removed as a potential "springboard" for escalating conflicts?

I seldom tend to take such comments like that personally, but it sure seems to stir up a lot of others and this is one of the inconsistencies that I've seen towards moderation.

For the most part I think mods do fairly well keeping things in line, but as with almost anything else, it's that 5% of issues that cause 95% of the problems and a discussion board where everyone agreed would get boring pretty quickly.

Well said! Like yourself, I don't really let things like name calling bother me. I guess I grew up where my folks taught me the "Sticks & Stones" rule. I do have a problem where things get to the point where folks start to threaten one another and I've seen that a few times but usually the mods step in and take control.

Like it has been said before, consistency is the key in my opinion. In general, whether people feel like they have been treated fairly or unfairly, if they feel that all have been treated the same, then there is little room for complaint.

But if I had my choice, I'd rather see the mods err on the side of leniency rather than be to strict about posts for fear things would become somewhat boring at times.

 

[Rick Murchison]

This is basically the same suggestion I had earlier
But alas...

Sooo... the automaton needs to be between the mod's ears... a less than perfect solution, but it appears we're stuck with it, at least for the time being.

Rick