Why does every new diver want to be an instructor?

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I will say it might have been different had I discovered SCUBA at a younger age. I discovered it at around 50. I was smart enough to know that after what I had heard and read the life of an instructor or DM wasn't going to work. That does not mean that I haven't thought of opening a shop some place tropical but again I have so far thought better of things the way they are and will only dream of "living the dream".:D
 
I have seen hundreds of posts that read something like, "I would like to learn to dive and become an instructor", or "I got certified last weekend and want to open a dive shop". Why do so many people feel the need to be an instructor in an activity that they are either very, very new to, or not even certified in? Why do so many new, or not even certified divers think that they could or should move in to the professional side of diving. Would they have hired an instructor to train them that started diving last month and just made the minimum required dives while on vacation to go from zero to hero? It drives me nuts!

I think it may be time to take a break from internet diving.

How does anyone decide a career path without having actually done it? People make such decisions every day, yet somehow when it is diving it drives people crazy.

"Dad, I want to be a Doctor!"

"That's crazy. Do a few operations first, then come back and talk to me."
 
Not quite the same. It's more like someone taking a first aid course and deciding they want to teach others instead of going into the field and practicing it. Which actually happens quite a bit. Unfortunately, the knowledge passed on in that case is purely academic with little of the "real world" experience that makes for meaningful education.

I think it's a little weird myself but that is partly because I always knew why I got into diving - to dive. I had a whole action plan for those skills already in place when I started. Rather than being enthralled by my instructors and wanting to emulate them, I would say I was/am rather more prone to be enthralled by, and wanting to emulate, explorers and scientists.

I also find it pretty easy to share my enjoyment of diving with others by simply diving with them.

But I also recognize that not everyone has the same orientation.

Not to put a totally sinister slant on things, because I'm sure there are perfectly well meaning motivations, but early involvement in teaching, instead of doing, can mask some personality deficits.

The first being an inability to dive independently, without a form of formal group structure or guidelines. Some divers do almost all their diving while being involved in a supervised course or activity. Oddly, this can be done right into the DM/instructor levels.

The second is an ego insecurity that leads some to seek a form of external "ranking" to validate themselves within the group. Instead of being an average diver amongst divers of a range of potentially greater or lesser abilities, it is a seductive ego inducement to be an "instructor" amongst solely new divers.
 
It´s more like being a kid out of high school and thinking, "hey dad, I want to teach medicine". He can be a doctor (a diver), some of us complain how many want to teach other doctors without even stepping foot inside the hospital.
 
Some of the worst instructors I have ever seen in action have 20-30+ years diving and thousands of dives.
Some of the best instructors I have ever seen in action have 2-4 years experience and 200-300 dives.

Some of the best instructors I have ever seen in action have 20-30 years experience and thousands of dives.
Some of the worst instructors I have ever seen in action have 2-4 years experience and 200-300 dives.

You can have all of the experience you want and be your own self proclaimed dive god of gods but suck at teaching.
You can have limited experience but be a competent diver and be one of the best instructors around. It all comes down to you having the ability to convey information and coach people to bring the best out in them. If you don't have the ability to talk to people and help them to learn then all is lost. I don't care if you dove all over the world and have 10,000 dives and can dive 3 miles into a cave. If you can't connect with people or are so jaded in your opinions that you can't bring yourself to follow the standards then you have no place as an instructor. Don't forget, we are talking open water here where newly certified divers can now really begin to learn to dive by diving.

The jaded, elitist attitude of some still amazes me. Just because you waited 20 years to become an instructor does not mean that everyone else has to. Maybe you would have been a great instructor after 2, maybe you will suck after 20. I have personally witnessed both extremes. There is a process available in many agencies to become a dive professional. If it exists and someone utilizes it then good for them. Don't forget that not every person that attempts to become a dive professional makes it through the program. Many are weeded out or have to repeat. I have witnessed that too. Some of the worst candidates I have watched fail had tons of experience. Yeah, tons of experience and years of bad habits. Some lacked the ability to publicly speak or convey simple material.

I still work part time as a paramedic instructor at a community college that prepares candidates for state certification as a paramedic. I personally have a lot of experience, including years as a critical care flight paramedic, working in ERs, trauma centers, on the ground and in the air. We see new candidates who came to the program but were never in an ambulance before. We all thought, this is BS, they should at least get some experience as a first responder or EMT but, no, the program allowed it so we dealt with it. In the end, they were some of the best students who went on to become great paramedics that I would be happy to see if I would need them. This is life and death and we stress out the candidates for a reason. At the end of the 13 month program, if we started with the usual 50 students, usually less than 20 graduate and less then that will actually work as a paramedic. Some of our worst students had a lot of EMT experience and thought they new it all but surprise, they did not and came with too many bad habits and bombed out of the program. I see diving instructors as no different. Yes, some of the best students we had came to us with lots of experience but some that came with the same experience simply could not cut it. And, there was always someone that sucked and we did not like and knew they would be terrible but somehow they managed to squeak through the program and make it, some after several years and 2-3 attempts. Some of them had lots of experience too, some did not. We are all different.

So yes, even if another life and death career choice we were able to see that some of the best paramedics out there were never in the back of an ambulance before class started. At least with diving, you have to have a minimum of 100 dives to become an instructor. Thats a pretty good start. If you waited 10-20 years but did not have to, that was your choice.
 
How does anyone decide a career path without having actually done it? People make such decisions every day, yet somehow when it is diving it drives people crazy.

"Dad, I want to be a Doctor!"

"That's crazy. Do a few operations first, then come back and talk to me."

That's a poor analogy. When your kid says he wants to be a doctor, you nod approvingly and try to help him with math and science. If a few years later he still talks of being a doctor, you encourage him to take Biology and Chemistry classes in high school and college and maybe do some volunteer work in a medical-related field. As far as I can recall from previous posts in this thread and similar ones, few here argue that new divers who express an interest in becoming DMs and instructors should be actively discouraged. Rather, a common opinion seems to be that their career enthusiasm is premature and that they should be encouraged to take it slow and follow a path of education and experience.
 
Why do so many people feel the need to be an instructor in an activity that they are either very, very new to, or not even certified in? Why do so many new, or not even certified divers think that they could or should move in to the professional side of diving.
I think tplyons and several others hit the spot - these newer divers have found something they are very excited about, and they genuinely want to share that excitement with others. That doesn't necessarily mean it is logical, rational, or enduring. But, it is their emotional reaction to an 'OMG' experience.

In my case it was a desire for the income and the lifestyle - driving a beemer, traveling around the world to exotic places, becoming incredibly wealthy. But, alas, I found the harsh truth after a number of years - that the money and lifestyle get old. After all, how many cars do you really need? What will I do with the millions of frequent flyer miles? It takes too much energy to manage all my investments I have made with my scuba teaching income. And, the women just won't leave me alone, to have a quiet night at home, with a glass of milk.
robertarak:
I think it may be time to take a break from internet diving.
Or, just not read those posts.
 
I think tplyons and several others hit the spot - these newer divers have found something they are very excited about, and they genuinely want to share that excitement with others. That doesn't necessarily mean it is logical, rational, or enduring. But, it is their emotional reaction to an 'OMG' experience.
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Add a targeted sales pitch with the "Are you ready to transform your life?", the race for the pro's is on. It is so prevelent here that even I was approached with the pitch, to which I replied " No, I like diving".

I don't rain on anyones parade because it will sort itself out over time, and it is fun to be living your dream, for however long...

I know I couldn't make it as an instructor, as my teaching methods still include ingraving the lesson on a croquet mallet and pounding it into the student. I assume that is a violation of some sort now.



Bob
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A man's got to know his limitations.
Harry Callahan
 
I still work part time as a paramedic instructor at a community college that prepares candidates for state certification as a paramedic. I personally have a lot of experience, including years as a critical care flight paramedic, working in ERs, trauma centers, on the ground and in the air. We see new candidates who came to the program but were never in an ambulance before.

Curious as to your feelings if those same new candidates came in wanting to become paramedic instructors without ever being in an ambulance before? Might be closer to the OP.
 

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