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Lynne's post about women in diving reminded me of my experience teaching scuba at my alma mater, Marywood University, which had been a private Catholic college for women. It admitted men in the 70's, but by the 1990's it still had a 15:1 ratio of female to male students. During semester registrations, the scuba class would fill all 20 seats before lunch on the first day of enrollment. Most of the students were female and seniors. By the 2000's the ratio of female to males dropped slightly, but the scuba class filled mostly with men and included freshmen. We tried to ascertain why the change. Body image was one pitfall that female students cited as to why they were less inclined to take the class. This was less of a problem when women dominated the enrollment and in the years before obesity was becoming more prevalent on campus. I wonder what impact a negative body image among women may steer them away from sports involving swimwear? We tend to want to blame men, male behavior, chauvinism, and military-like dive training for turning women away from the sport. Could it be that men have very little to do with it and that women are mostly influenced by the media and social pressures regarding body image?
 
Jacques-Yves Cousteau specials on TV will generate demand. Saw my first one in the early 60's. Took a long time to get there, but I finally became a diver.

Make a list of inhibitors, then make a list of ways to overcome the inhibitors. If you can make that happen, then you'll have a growing market. People doing random web searches will not get off their seat or their wallet because of a better SEO strategy. Run ads showing warm tropical beaches, diving, beautiful sea life, pretty people having fun. Run these ads in locations that have ski resorts. They obviously have the time and disposable income to become divers. Main street America does not have the time nor disposable income, generally speaking.
 
I wonder what impact a negative body image among women may steer them away from sports involving swimwear? We tend to want to blame men, male behavior, chauvinism, and military-like dive training for turning women away from the sport. Could it be that men have very little to do with it and that women are mostly influenced by the media and social pressures regarding body image?

I don't know how much I've seen men and issues related to them blamed for the lower presence of women in scuba diving, to be honest. As a woman who happens to work with many obese women for a living, I'll offer two things. First, there are comparatively few women (including those of normal weight) who are interested in sport-oriented activities, or any activity that is very physically oriented. I do full lifestyle assessments on hundreds of people and it continues to shock me how few of either gender care to be physically active any more; it's worse for women than men in my experience. I try every day to encourage more of them into a more active way of life, not just for physical health but for emotional health.

One thing we're up against in the diving world is that the tendency in the general population over these last few decades has been toward a more sedentary way of living. This is in part because as the average weight increases, decreasing mobility and increasing pain result in decreasing interest in doing things that involve being physically active (which would fix the problem, I know -- believe me, I know). But another reason for the decrease in activity is that there are, in the last couple of decades, so many more enticements to remain stationary (talking to you Internet, computers, mobile devices, and social media). The people born in the last 30 years have grown up in a completely different world than the one remembered by those of us who are mid-forties or older. For some time now, there has been declining social emphasis on physical activity in general, let alone an activity like diving which requires an unusual amount of overhead, effort, and special equipment to pursue.

The second thing I'll offer is that Trace is absolutely right about body image and aversion to swimwear being an issue. I don't know if I'd call it THE reason women don't tend more toward diving, but it is certainly a reason of note. Most women I talk to just don't do anything that involves getting in swimwear, period. They're reluctant even to don swimwear so that they can get into the pool at their local health club. And this isn't just the overweight women I work with; the ones of normal or only minor overweight aren't much better. It gets a little better if they anticipate being seen only by other women (less fear of being judged); if they anticipate being seen by men, game over.

Obviously, there are exceptions to both of these observations but they do hold up for an unfortunate majority, in my experience.

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I've worked in the industry for 16 years. I owned a dive store for 7 years, I was a rep for DAN for 7 years (I probably tried to visit your place in Dunn) and I was the director of marketing for a dive travel wholesaler for 4 years. (Did I say that already?) I'm in the game, you're warning is too late. My last two bosses were on the DEMA board of directors. I know DEMA isn't popular here, but I know how hard they work to promote the industry.

Hi Julie, your statement above has me curious. True enough that DEMA isn't popular here, and for reasons that lots of people are happy to share in great detail. I don't have any connection to or dealings with DEMA other than to hear what other people say about it, so I am curious about what you believe -- specifically, please -- that DEMA is doing well, and what, if anything, you believe they could be doing differently that would improve their support of diving and add to its stability as a sport and industry?
 
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The second thing I'll offer is that Trace is absolutely right about body image and aversion to swimwear being an issue. I don't know if I'd call it THE reason women don't tend more toward diving, but it is certainly a reason of note. Most women I talk to just don't do anything that involves getting in swimwear, period. They're reluctant even to don swimwear so that they can get into the pool at their local health club. And this isn't just the overweight women I work with; the ones of normal or only minor overweight aren't much better. It gets a little better if they anticipate being seen only by other women (less fear of being judged); if they anticipate being seen by men, game over.

Sorry, I ain't buying that as contributing to the dearth of female divers in any meaningful way. Come spend a Saturday with us on Long Beach Island this summer. You'll find a few million women of all shapes and sizes with no aversion to being seen in a bathing suit. Even in bathing suits that can barely be seen themselves...

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Sorry, I ain't buying that as contributing to the dearth of female divers in any meaningful way. Come spend a Saturday on the beach with us at the NJ shore this summer. You'll find a few million women with no aversion to being seen in a bathing suit. Even in bathing suits that can barely be seen themselves...

We're probably seeing a regional difference; your photo speaks for itself. Here in landlocked southwestern PA, it's a very different story.
 
We're probably seeing a regional difference; your photo speaks for itself. Here in landlocked southwestern PA, it's a very different story.

Women near the cost don't have body perception issues to the same extent as those further away? Hmm...

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Women near the cost don't have body perception issues to the same extent as those further away? Hmm...

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Maybe it's that women near the coast have a better payoff if they deal with being seen publicly in swimwear. Perhaps we'd see more of that around here too if there were sunny beaches to be enjoyed. We hardly get sun (one of the cloudiest places in the country), and we don't have beaches. All we have here is public pools and the occasional water park, hardly worth the trouble if one is feeling uncomfortable about showing much flesh.

I haven't tried to sort out why so many women in this area are this way. I can just tell you that they are.
 
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At a large public beach it's easier to 'blend' into the mass, to see women who are fatter & look worse than you, and to see that the large group validates hanging out this way.

Whether the females in the general public think of scuba involving smaller groupers, often of fitter looking on average peers, I don't know. Granted, there are plenty of chunky divers (I am one), but I figure not as many morbidly obese as in the general population.

On the male vs. female perspectives:

1.) As a chunky guy, I can wear baggy swim wear. Including a loose t-shirt if I wish. While not all female attire is teeny-weeny, nearly all of it is form-fitting, and often exposes the belly, a sensitive point with many women. A good shorty can provide better coverage and perhaps better shape; perhaps scuba advertising should subtly feature some 'thicker' women in 'damage control' and enhancing exposure suits so potential customers associate scuba with looking good?

2.) It's been said that women carry purses instead of wallets because they're terrified we might think they're 'shaped that way' (with a growth on their butt) if they carried wallets. Women are major consumers for the cosmetics industry. A co-worker referred to the female-owned plethora of bottles (shampoos, conditions, hair spray, skin creams, makeup, etc...) in home bathrooms as the 'bathroom skyline' (looks like a little city). For many, a man needs a bar of soap, shampoo, toothpaste, mouthwash and deodorant.

So it makes sense the female customer averages a bit different. But I think a number of females get into scuba because it's something their boyfriends or husbands are doing (granted, occasionally the reverse happens).

I wonder what percentage of female divers got into the sport of their own initiative?

Richard.
 
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