12 boys lost in flooded Thai cave

[Dan]

It’s probably a stupid idea but given the potential for panic in certain parts of the dive it might not be as silly as it seems. Very risky but everything now is very risky. Respiratory depression might even be desirable.

It’s a CF. Just pray they can get them out safely. So many things that can go wrong.

What is CF?

 

[grf88]

What is CF?

The first word is cluster you can probably work out the rest.

 

[Dan]

This method of rescue attempt makes sense. I just hope that the boys don’t panic when they get muscles cramps after 2 weeks sitting around.

Those side-mounted tank divers would be perfectly fit for doing such rescue diving, I guess.

 

[RockiesFan]

For lack of a better term, I am afraid it is getting close to time to sh*t or get off the pot. Here's hoping for a positive outcome.

 

[broncobowsher]

Journalists who don’t know about diving often refer to oxygen tanks when they mean scuba. I would bet money that that’s what’s happening here.

And the winner on only the second reply.

Giving the journalist way too much credit that they actually know what they are talking about. Probably some press conference, someone trying to dumb it down to journalist level of understanding, and that is what they are now called.

 

[MichaelMc]

That is a cheery diagram.... Passages like the above are hard enough for non-divers, but they are only the easy part. I think that picture is perhaps irresponsibly over cheery. It does not seem that light will work. None of the surface water shots suggest 10' vis. Some of the press on the SEAL's death indicated inability to read gauges due to silt. Everything I've seen in the press suggests that underwater will be at most a slight glow in front of the child's face, if their mask has a light.

More than that, the challenge is wriggling through a twisted passage only big enough for the diver or tank, the water silt making that light useless, and the escorts still needing to go head first to make their own way. Some diagrams of tank-escort-child-tank-escort all head to toe might emphasize the point, if that is what they face. With a head lamp shining only half a foot, likely still over optimistic. I do not know how long the narrow restrictions go for. Maybe the small restrictions are only 3' long, and they can have divers on each end.

 

[Mrs. B]

And the maths doesn’t look good if it’s 5 hours min per person to get out. That’s 13 x 5 = 65 absolute min hours unless they try to do parallel which has its own risks.

This takes them well into monsoon rains again.

Why are they waiting? Obviously they have a reason or reasons I just can’t fathom them.

They might be waiting because no one individual is ready to assume the risk yet

I’m trying to imagine who would volunteer to drill too

If the cave collapses the criticism and
second guessing would be never ending

 

[GreggS]

I was watching the news with my non-diving friend when they referred to the divers using oxygen. I told him that drives most divers crazy because there's a big difference between oxygen and air and most news nerds don't know the difference.

 

[chillyinCanada]

This has no doubt been even more confusing to the reporters with so much talk of the oxygen depletion in the boy's chamber.

 

[Mrs. B]

They might need the time to get their 02 saturation up to normal