200' on air for 5 min bottom time?

[PfcAJ]

If you're gunna dive deep, why make it worse?

Similar to diving in a cave (dangerous), but I dont make it more dangerous by diving without a line. Or past thirds. There's just no sense in making a dangerous situation more dangerous. If you want to dive deep, take the right gear, the right gas (not a high END gas) and have the right training. If you don't have 3/3 of those requirements, you're upping the risk for no good reason.

If Kev can wipe out an entire country's helium supply, I'm sure you guys can track down a little helium, too.

 

[DaleC]

Didn't Ed Soellner die from breathing too rich a EAN mix?
Was Sheck breathing air at 1000'?

 

[lamont]

[video=youtube;ErkWknx3ctw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkWknx3ctw[/video]

 

[PfcAJ]

Sheck was on Trimix, but the END was quite sporty. Like 400ft or somethin.

 

[Tigerman]

1000 ft is SLIGHTLY in a differnet ballpark than 200 anyways, wouldnt you say?

 

[PfcAJ]

I wouldn't sign up for it!

 

[DaleC]

Well I was just curious. It seems you are arguing against the narcotic effect of air past 100' by using stats that include a diver death on trimix at 1000' and a diver death due to toxing on a rich mix???

 

[PfcAJ]

If if makes you feel better, gloss over those two examples, I guess?

 

[DCBC]

...There's just no sense in making a dangerous situation more dangerous.

So you'll stop diving once you reach the age of 30?

Similar to diving in a cave (dangerous), but I dont make it more dangerous by diving without a line. Or past thirds. There's just no sense in making a dangerous situation more dangerous. ...If you want to dive deep, take the right gear, the right gas (not a high END gas) and have the right training. If you don't have 3/3 of those requirements, you're upping the risk for no good reason.

The point is that you "make it more dangerous" by entering the overhead environment in the first place. Do you think that the rule of thirds is going to guarantee your safety? No. You make the dive in the safest manner you can. By going into the Cave you've chosen to increase your risk. Others might think that you're reckless, but it is your decision.

You seem to think however that you can throw stones at another Diver's assessment/acceptance of risk and brand it as unsafe. Is there really any brand of risk better than another? All divers increase risk by entering the water. Using your methodology, why increase risk by going into a Cave? You're argument has no consistency.

 

[PfcAJ]

Sure it does.

If you want to see whats deep, go do it. Take the right stuff with you (training too).
If you want to see whats inside a cave, go do it. Take the right stuff with you (training too).

You're making it extra dangerous by not having enough gas. Or having a high END. Or having a high ppo2.
You're making it extra dangerous by not running a line. Or having 3 lights. Or diving past thirds.

Its so consistant, the words are almost the same.

Also, you can't not be 30 once you reach 30. You CAN, however, not have a high END. See how those two aren't the same?