2009 SEC Football Discussion Thread
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We're gonna hafta agree to agree here... I fully expect Florida, Bama or Ole Miss to be the National Champs this year. Any of us could beat the other on the right day. I am hoping that we don't each defeat each other in a way that allows for some other school to play for the supreme spot. Three of the top five are SEC teams. You've got to love that. 
That being said, I think Florida has the talent edge on the other two. Not insurmountable, but it's there. I can't ever remember us being ranked #1 so early or for so long. I kinda like it!
That being said, I think Florida has the talent edge on the other two. Not insurmountable, but it's there. I can't ever remember us being ranked #1 so early or for so long. I kinda like it!
It just depends upon the regular season. If the SEC beats themselves up, and OU beats Texas, we could end up with Boise State vs Penn State.
I am sure that would cause no controversey at all...
I am sure that would cause no controversey at all...
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mike_s
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We're gonna hafta agree to agree here... I fully expect Florida, Bama or Ole Miss to be the National Champs this year. Any of us could beat the other on the right day. I am hoping that we don't each defeat each other in a way that allows for some other school to play for the supreme spot. Three of the top five are SEC teams. You've got to love that.
well Tebow is in his senior year... so that could change soon.
Tennessee showed that Florida offense could be held back. (they just couldn't do it the entire game.) Ole Miss beat Florida last year. Like you said, any could beat the other on the right day.
You think Tebow will get the heisman this year? (I think he's got a chance. He will definately beat Herschel's record for touchdowns this year).
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mike_s
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speaking of rankings, check out how the "Girls of the SEC Teams" ranked.
ClayNation: No losers when ranking girls of SEC - SPiN - CBSSports.com
ClayNation: No losers when ranking girls of SEC - SPiN - CBSSports.com
He must have a good shot at a "career achievement" Heisman, even if he doesn't have a spectacular year (see for example Gino Torretta, Ron Dayne, Ty Detmer - seniors who may not have had great years, but had great careers and were being rewarded for it).
The fact that he is such an all around good guy cannot hurt. On pure talent though, Javid Best looks like the front runner at the moment.
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mike_s
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I thought he was deserving enough of it last year.... along with the other candidates.
I wonder sometimes if they didn't want to give it to him last year so that he wouldn't end up getting it three years in a row?
I wonder sometimes if they didn't want to give it to him last year so that he wouldn't end up getting it three years in a row?
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mike_s
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It's funny to read Lane Kiffin's quack comments sometimes.
Kiffin defends game plan, takes shot at Meyer
By Beth Rucker
Associated Press Writer
KNOXVILLE Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says he put his Vols in the best position they could be in to beat Florida. Then he took one more shot at Gators coach Urban Meyer.
Meyer said Sunday that he kept his game plan conservative in No. 1 Floridas 23-13 win after he felt the Vols didnt appear to be playing for a win. He also said several of his players had been hit by the flu.
On Monday, Kiffin said he didnt want to respond to Meyers comment. But asked whether he was worried about the flu also hitting Tennessee, he said: I dont know. I guess well wait and after were not excited about a performance, well tell you everybody was sick.
Tennessee (1-2, 0-1 Southeastern Conference) was tagged as a 30-point underdog partly because of Kiffins offseason comments about Florida.
The Vols first-year coach pledged to sing Rocky Top after beating the Gators at the Swamp and accused Meyer of an NCAA violation in trying to hang on to a recruit who eventually joined Kiffin at Tennessee.
SEC commissioner Mike Slive reprimanded Kiffin for the latter and warned all coaches about taking shots at one another.
This offseason the commissioner made a big deal of renewing vows in terms of what we say about other teams, other coaches and other players Kiffin said. Obviously, Urban feels he doesnt need to follow that. We wont say anything else.
Tennessee didnt play its role in what was supposed to be a Florida blowout.
With 11:37 left in the game and Florida (3-0, 1-0) holding a 23-6 lead, the Vols recovered a fumble by Tim Tebow at their own 2. Kiffin turned to running backs Montario Hardesty and Bryce Brown to pound out runs and catch short passes.
Thats where Meyer felt Kiffin wasnt concern about winning.
They wanted to shorten the game. I remember looking out there and theres 10 minutes left in the game and theres no no-huddle, they are down, I think it was 23-6 and (theres no) urgency, he said.
Kiffin said he preferred to turn to his tailbacks, who had little trouble moving the chains against the Gators defense, rather than the Vols struggling passing game.
It worked. Montario Hardesty scored on a 17-yard run with 8:11 left to cut the margin to 23-13.
That was the best thing to put us in position to win, and we moved the ball doing that, he said. That was how we needed to play at that time.
With about two minutes left in the game and a chance to score, Kiffin gave Jonathan Crompton who had already thrown one interception a chance to throw down field to Denarius Moore. The pass was picked off by Ahmad Black for Cromptons seventh interception of the season.
People should know the truth. We came out to play, Moore said. They said it themselves. They didnt expect us to come out and play like that. We just played our hardest, and so did they.
Kiffin said the Vols got beat by Tebow, who made some key scrambling plays in third-and-long situations.
Hed also like another shot at the senior quarterback who he calls Superman.
I wish it was like basketball where we got another chance to play them, where we play them two times in a year, he said. Unfortunately, we wont get to play him again, and theyll have to play without (Tebow) next time.
Kiffin defends game plan, takes shot at Meyer
By Beth Rucker
Associated Press Writer
KNOXVILLE Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin says he put his Vols in the best position they could be in to beat Florida. Then he took one more shot at Gators coach Urban Meyer.
Meyer said Sunday that he kept his game plan conservative in No. 1 Floridas 23-13 win after he felt the Vols didnt appear to be playing for a win. He also said several of his players had been hit by the flu.
On Monday, Kiffin said he didnt want to respond to Meyers comment. But asked whether he was worried about the flu also hitting Tennessee, he said: I dont know. I guess well wait and after were not excited about a performance, well tell you everybody was sick.
Tennessee (1-2, 0-1 Southeastern Conference) was tagged as a 30-point underdog partly because of Kiffins offseason comments about Florida.
The Vols first-year coach pledged to sing Rocky Top after beating the Gators at the Swamp and accused Meyer of an NCAA violation in trying to hang on to a recruit who eventually joined Kiffin at Tennessee.
SEC commissioner Mike Slive reprimanded Kiffin for the latter and warned all coaches about taking shots at one another.
This offseason the commissioner made a big deal of renewing vows in terms of what we say about other teams, other coaches and other players Kiffin said. Obviously, Urban feels he doesnt need to follow that. We wont say anything else.
Tennessee didnt play its role in what was supposed to be a Florida blowout.
With 11:37 left in the game and Florida (3-0, 1-0) holding a 23-6 lead, the Vols recovered a fumble by Tim Tebow at their own 2. Kiffin turned to running backs Montario Hardesty and Bryce Brown to pound out runs and catch short passes.
Thats where Meyer felt Kiffin wasnt concern about winning.
They wanted to shorten the game. I remember looking out there and theres 10 minutes left in the game and theres no no-huddle, they are down, I think it was 23-6 and (theres no) urgency, he said.
Kiffin said he preferred to turn to his tailbacks, who had little trouble moving the chains against the Gators defense, rather than the Vols struggling passing game.
It worked. Montario Hardesty scored on a 17-yard run with 8:11 left to cut the margin to 23-13.
That was the best thing to put us in position to win, and we moved the ball doing that, he said. That was how we needed to play at that time.
With about two minutes left in the game and a chance to score, Kiffin gave Jonathan Crompton who had already thrown one interception a chance to throw down field to Denarius Moore. The pass was picked off by Ahmad Black for Cromptons seventh interception of the season.
People should know the truth. We came out to play, Moore said. They said it themselves. They didnt expect us to come out and play like that. We just played our hardest, and so did they.
Kiffin said the Vols got beat by Tebow, who made some key scrambling plays in third-and-long situations.
Hed also like another shot at the senior quarterback who he calls Superman.
I wish it was like basketball where we got another chance to play them, where we play them two times in a year, he said. Unfortunately, we wont get to play him again, and theyll have to play without (Tebow) next time.
The Chairman
Chairman of the Board
The pettiness of people never ceases to amaze me!I thought he was deserving enough of it last year.... along with the other candidates.
I wonder sometimes if they didn't want to give it to him last year so that he wouldn't end up getting it three years in a row?
However, Tebow will probably emerge this year as the most decorated football player in the NCAA ever. Will he go pro? Only if he can make it about religion somehow. I am confident that's why he stayed in school: to have a spiritual impact on those around him.
Have we heard anything about Spike's ankle yet? I would hate to lose our second superstar!
The Chairman
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