Bent in Cozumel

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I think I take it a lot more seriously than I did before. I also have gotten comfortable with the thought that, while I would not like to give up diving, I could and would if it meant my health. It isn't really more dear to me but it is a lot more of a privelege that I don't take for granted anymore. I feel that I have moved to a different skill set and left behind a lot of the illusions that came from not getting bent in the past. 47 days.
 
Tim & Christi,

I echo all the other "newbies" thanks. I have been diving for the past 5 years and love it. A nice week long vacation in some fun place with fabulous diving. I (My buddy and the DMs) have always kept my dives shallow and short with nice long ascents and safety stops. Thanks to you two, I will not only keep doing this, but will avoid alcohol, exercise and hydrate often. It's great to have wonderful people like you around to give people like me advice and share your life lessons with. I am glad that you both recovered and were able to continue diving. I hope I have learned and will never have DCS!

TrainerAW
 
I'm bringing this post up to the top again in hopes that someone getting ready to leave for Cozumel might learn from my story. Chuck just posted his "Bent in Cozumel" story and I wanted another one up near the top. I'm not the first to get bent in Cozumel and I won't be the last. Make sure you are not the next.
 
Tim Ingersoll:
I'm bringing this post up to the top again in hopes that someone getting ready to leave for Cozumel might learn from my story. Chuck just posted his "Bent in Cozumel" story and I wanted another one up near the top. I'm not the first to get bent in Cozumel and I won't be the last. Make sure you are not the next.


Hey Tim and Chuck! I think we need to start a new forum..."BDA...Bent Divers Anonymous" and we can have a 12-step program for divers in recovery :)

Sharing your story is one of the BIG steps :)
 
Christi:
Hey Tim and Chuck! I think we need to start a new forum..."BDA...Bent Divers Anonymous" and we can have a 12-step program for divers in recovery :)

Sharing your story is one of the BIG steps :)

LOL Christi. Well, while I think we have enough forums right now (that's an understatement) why not start a new thread on it in the Cozumel forum?
 
Christi:
Sharing your story is one of the BIG steps :)
Reading them (and applying what you learned) helps you stay OUT of the group!
 
Tim Ingersoll:
(1) Was this a justified hit? I don't know. Was I dehydrated? Well after hearing the doctor's idea of hydration I guess I was.

(2) I wish I hadn't denied the symptoms for 18 hours. I probably would not have needed the second ride if I went right away.

(3) Be careful out there campers. Approximately two divers die per month in Cozumel. Half are cardiac related and the other half are cases like mine. It could be you. I know that many of you will say. . . "Well he was drinking the night before, and I don't drink, so it couldn't happen to me." or "He wasn't properly hydrated, I drink more water so it can't happen to me."

Wrong lessons, kids. Be prepared for the unexpected. Thank God I had the right insurance and was able to beat back the denial in time to not really screw up my vacation, my health or my life.

After Christi's excellent reporting of the incident with her friend, this is an especially good story to have repeated, especially since Tim will be headed back to Cozumel soon.

As a DMT, I would like to thank Mr. Ingersoll for relating all of the "back-story" to his incident. It is very revealing of certain things.

(1) In decompression work, we have gotten away from calling hits justified or un-justified. Remember from your basic dive training that dive tables are statistically based. In other words, we say that, if you follow this table, your chance of having a DCS occurrence is "X" in 10,000 instances or dives. Folks, that number is NEVER a zero. In other words, you can do everything right, and it can still happen.

Now, the things that you DO or DO NOT do can either INCREASE or DECREASE your statistical chances within that range, so don't go getting fatalistic on us. :wink:

(2) Denial is, if not one of the symptoms, so endemic among divers that it might as well be. If you're hurting, and you think you might be bent, don't ignore it. Visit the Doc, or your local chamber folks, and let THEM make the decision. No one will laugh at you, or blame you for it! (Anyone who does that is...plain and simple...a horse's behind. Let us know who he is, and we DMT's will beat up on him!)

(3) The take-home lessons are clear, stay hydrated, watch your profiles and residual gas loading, especially if you are doing the "One Vacation Summer Cram-it-all-in-in-a-week" trip to Cozumel, and above all, have your DAN insurance up to date!

As Major Rogers used to say: "Put your trust in God, my boys, but keep your powder dry!"

Thank you again, Tim, for sharing your story with us!

Rob Davie
 
Hi there,
Sorry you got bent.I was in Fiji and got bent. Very bad experience for me, basically because the chamber was the size of a coffin and the doctor running it just wanted to get me in (not because i was bent so bad... more for the money of it).
Didn't explain anything about it.
Didn't explain that it would be difficult to breath at the 60 ft. range and that it would get easier at 30.
Essentally I had a panic attack. Thought i would tear my head off.
All this "panic" was really out of character for me. Ive been diving for years and have never been afraid of any of it.
ANyway... its been over a year and i still get what feels like I would think authritis would feel in the joints of my fingers and hands.
Do you have any kind of feeling from your being bent?
I want to dive again but Im really just scared.
Any advice?
thanx, karen







Tim Ingersoll:
Just returned from Cozumel. Seven day trip staying at the Presidente with wife and kids. Got bent.
Took the first day off from diving and did the family thing. Started the day with a workout at the resort gym. Did the same workout I do here at home. Twenty minutes of cardio and then 40 minutes with the weights. Had a few drinks that night. Nothing out of control. Drank water before turning in. Drank plenty of liquids the next morning. Dove with Aldora as usual. Drank a pint of water on the ride out. First dive Palancar Gardens. Max depth: 105 feet. Most of the dive spent between 60 and 80 feet. Duration 70+ minutes. Interval was almost two hours. Drank a pint of water at the interval and another on the boat out. Second dive was max depth of approximately 80 feet for 70+ minutes. Most of the dive spent at or above 60 feet. I dive with two computers a Suunto Fusion and an Oceanic Veo 200. The Oceanic never had a problem with my profile the first day. The Suunto called for a five minute deco stop at fifteen feet. It cleared in less than three minutes. I stayed at the safety stop for a total of seven minutes.
That night I had approximately four alcoholic drinks. Once again, two glasses of water before bed, Juice and water with breakfast. Two cups of coffee. Water on the boat ride out. First dive was Colmbia Normale. Once again max depth approximately 105 feet. Duration a little over an hour. Most of the dive was spent between 60 and 80 feet. Water at the surface interval of approximately 2 hours. Second dive was max depth of 80 feet. Most of the dive was between 50 and 60 feet. Duration was over an hour. My Oceanic said no problem. The Suunto called for a three minute stop at 15 feet. I stayed five minutes.
Upon returning to the boat my left shoulder immediately started to hurt. Dull ache consistent with a muscle sprain. I blew it off as just that (Nobody gets bent after four dives right?). The pain subsided somewhat but was still notceable for the remainder of the day. I self-medicated somewhat with alcohol (yeah, yeah, I know). I posted a thread under the "Ask Dr. Decompression" category and received responses later that day basically telling me not to be stupid and get it checked out. The most effective post was "Denial is the last step before recovery." I still didn't want to believe I got bent. I woke up at 2 in the morning and believed it. The pain was worse.
First thing in the morning I called Aldora and they set me up with Dr. Pasqale Piccolo. I met him at the hyperbaric chamber that morning. http://www.islacozumel.net/services/chamber/ He did a few neurological tests and said I was clearly bent (heel-toe walk, follow the finger with your eyes, squeeze my hand as hard as you can). He also pointed out skin discoloration in my fatty tissue (hard to find thank you very much). Into the chamber I went. Five and a half hours at US Navy Table Six. Pain was abated somewhat. They have the chamber set up for two. I rode with the doctor's wife/nurse Heidi. We watched a couple movies shot in through a porthole onto the wall of the chamber. I was constantly drinking water and breathing oxygen with a couple fifteen minute breaks. Basically, it sucked. When I came out of the chamber the two divemasters that I had dove with were there. Aldora also made sure that all transportation was taken care of and offered me a free Nitrox course next trip down.
I was given a prescription for a mild painkiller. The pain was basically one-tenth of what it had been.
The next morning I was re-evaluated and rode again. US Navy Table 9 for 2 and a half hours. Happy Easter!
The total tab for the treatment was $6,620.00. My primary care insurance will cover 100%. I have DAN Master insurance as well and it will likely only have to cover my $50 co-pay. I had to leave the doctor with an open credit card authorization to cover the fees. My insurance company will not pay out of network directly. They will pay me and then I pay the doctor. Apparently they have been burned repeatedly by divers who simply keep the check (Where the hell is honor in this world?).
WARNING. If you do not have health or dive insurance and cannot pay you will not be treated. This is not the USA. No pay, no treatment. Think carefully about this when you get on that scooter after a few beers or follow your DM past 100 feet. Get DAN or a smiliar insurance.
I cannot dive for six months. When I do dive I have been advised to dive Nitrox on air tables. I will. No strenuous exercise for two weeks. No alcohol for one week. Water, water, water every day. I'm drinking a pint right now.
Was this a justified hit? I don't know. Was I dehydrated? Well after hearing the doctor's idea of hydration I guess I was (I drank at least 3/4 of a gallon in the chamber on the first ride).
As I sit hear I feel lucky it wasn't worse. I wish I hadn't denied the symptoms for 18 hours. I probably would not have needed the second ride if I went right away. I still have some residual pain in my left elbow and wrist. Nothing really to complain about, just an occassional twinge to remind me of what happened. Oh, and flu symptoms not related to the flu. Thats a treat.
Be careful out there campers. Approximately two divers die per month in Cozumel. Half are cardiac related and the other half are cases like mine. It could be you. I know that many of you will say. . . "Well he was drinking the night before, and I don't drink, so it couldn't happen to me." or "He wasn't properly hydrated, I drink more water so it can't happen to me." Wrong lesson kids. Be prepared for the unexpected. Thank God I had the right insurance and was able to beat back the denial in time to not really screw up my vacation, my health or my life. Okay analyze and beat me up to your hearts content!
 
That would be great!!! We would all really feel better or get way more paranoid.
I would love to know, one way or the other, weather if you were bent once youre chances of getting bent again are higer.
Any info?
thanx, karen


Christi:
Hey Tim and Chuck! I think we need to start a new forum..."BDA...Bent Divers Anonymous" and we can have a 12-step program for divers in recovery :)

Sharing your story is one of the BIG steps :)
 
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