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Blackmail by 'professionals"?

Discussion in 'Business of Diving Institute' started by Indah, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Kharon

    Kharon Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Upstate NY
    IMO active duty military/veterans/first responders should be given a discount if anyone is. They certainly provide more service to more people and at much higher risk to themselves than almost any other occupations. Certainly way far more than dive professionals.
    Zef likes this.
  2. CathyE

    CathyE Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Ontario
    In my many years as a RCMP officer's daughter, a reservist and a military wife, I have seen only the opposite behaviour.
    People will often drive by a shop to go home and change before returning to the shop in civilian dress just so they don't influence nor intimidate the interaction.
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  4. Saniflush

    Saniflush ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    The only discount I ask for is a cash discount. Sometimes they have one, sometimes they don't. Hey, if they don't want to report it to the government that's their business.
    macado likes this.
  5. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Georgia
    I have had a veteran tell me that they are entitled to a veterans discount from me (and I offer one) however, being told he was entitled lead me to tell him no.

    I'm a veteran as well.
    Schwob, BenjaminF, Marie13 and 2 others like this.
  6. JohnnyC

    JohnnyC PADI Pro

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: United States
    My father was a fighter pilot for 30 years. He sat alert in B-52's in the 70's and first couple years of the 80's before he sat alert flying F-111's out of the UK. Read that as sitting, waiting for a bunch of Stealth fighters to clear nothing more than a 10 mile gap in Eastern Europe so he could fly thousands of miles from home to nuke the Soviet Union. He still smarts because Lakenheath was selected to run Operation El Dorado over the squadrons at Upper Heyford despite the fact that they had better readiness numbers, higher bomb scores, and more flying hours. (Tiger Tiger Roar) It was a political decision at TAC. I watched the Berlin Wall fall from a little house in Middleton-Cheney. In the early 90's he missed being deployed to the Gulf War because he was hand selected to be the lead test pilot in the development of the GBU-28 while stationed at Nellis. He turned down the opportunity to be a squadron commander of an F-117 squadron before anybody knew what they were. After that he flew Sandy missions in A-10's up until a few years before his retirement, and up until the US invaded Iraq again, he had more time in the Middle East than anyone else in the USAF. Towards the end of his career was the highest ranking CENTCOM/SOUTHCOM officer in Haiti save the USMC General in charge when all that fun stuff went down. It involved rolling around in a humvee with guys whose DD-214's have more stuff redacted than readable. It involves everything you think that would entail..... In between he developed the command and control center that overseas air, space, and intelligence operations that include 31 countries, covering 1/6th of the Earth's landmass, and more than 559 million people. All because the PACAF commander personally wanted him to work for the USAF for a few years longer. Suffice it to say, if anyone deserves a couple bucks off, it's him.

    You know what he doesn't do? He doesn't ask for a discount. If someone offers a veterans discount he says, "thank you for the discount, I really appreciate it."

    The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter who you are or what you've done, you're not entitled to anything. And if someone sees fit to offer you one for whatever reason, be gracious and say thank you. If you ask for a discount and they say no, don't be a jerk. Better yet, just don't ask. Unless you're being paid as a professional, you're a client just like everyone else.
  7. Storker

    Storker Divemaster

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: close to a Hell which occasionally freezes over
  8. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

    I agree 100% with and am glad you handled it the way you did. I believe, and I hope i am correct, that the entitlement attitude that this guy displayed is not widespread throughout the active duty, retiree, and veteran community.

    cerich likes this.
  9. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Great Lakes
    My favorite example of the “I’m entitled to a discount” was in 1991 when US forces were being deployed for the first Gulf War. I was in ny senior year of college, working in a mall chain bookstore. Some 20-something was buying lots of books. He asked for a discount as he was being deployed. He was shopping with mom. Manager said no, I’m sorry, we don’t give anyone discounts. He started arguing with the manager and then his mom got involved in the argument. It was really fun to watch. They ended up buying the books anyway.

    This was in Ann Arbor, MI.
  10. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Great Lakes
    It’s the demanding a discount I take issue with.

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