Coco View/Roatan - what an awesome place

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I LOVE CoCoView!

21 more days and I'm there!

I see you met Poncho! I need to remember to pack him some doggie treats this time! He loves to ride in the kayaks!
 
philmayer:
I LOVE CoCoView!

21 more days and I'm there!

I see you met Poncho! I need to remember to pack him some doggie treats this time! He loves to ride in the kayaks!

Yeah he is a cool dog!
FUNNIEST than anything I can remember in a loooooong time.... the bird at the bar (don't have any idea what it's name is) very sweet, loved to be petted but will let you know when enough is enough. I meowed at the bird for most of the week, in hopes he would meow back at me. the last night we were there he said after I meowed at him "here kitty, kitty, kitty" I started laughing at him and then HE started laughing back at me. I wish ANYONE would have been there to see it :rofl3:
 
philmayer:
I LOVE CoCoView! 21 more days and I'm there!!

I understand the attraction.

We have been to many dive resorts and liveaboards all over the world. We measure all other opeartions by the CoCoView Standard. I do believe that there is arguably better diving in the Caribbean, but when you factor in the actual resort and the staff, the boats, the accomodations and that shore dive, you have a combination that is hard to beat~ I will easily call it the best in the Caribbean and arguably the world.

The difficulty with researching an intended dive destination with the opinions, perceptions and experiences of others is that quite often those views are rather limited in breadth. We only know what we know.

Everyone searches for validation. They want to know that their vacation dollar was well spent, so they are certain that their last vacation at Club Dread was the bestest ever place! What better way to reassure themselves than by telling everyone else?

I am amazed at the lousy reviews that resorts get, yet ScubaBoarders still go to them and feel compelled to post a scathing report. Reminds me of that old Cheech and Chong routine regarding dog poop. "Hmm- smells like dog poop, feels like dog poop, tastes like dog poop- sure glad I didn't step in it!". Why speak when you didn't read?

Some folks want dive vacations, some want vacations with some diving. One is not a badge of honor over the other, but few that seek the latter will ever admit to it. When picking a destination or resort, this is critical. People come on ScubaBoard all the time asking, "which liveaboard is best for non-divers?" My answer is always: "NCL", meaning- any cruise ship. Cruise ship vacationers also come on all the time inquiring about "what is the best dive op" for their brief visit to an island. Answer? The one they send you to from the ship. Do not try to mix "real diving"... at least in the Caribbean, with a relaxed vacation.

It all boils down to perceptions and needs, that which are actual and those which are self-admitted, or a result of self-denial. I have seen many folks claim they needed 5 dives a day where in fact they hit the bar every day at 4pm and flopped into bed at 2am. This doesn't mix well with diving- not for long.

CCV is the kind of place where the focus is strictly on diving. Sure- you will see the rare occasional individual or group that hits the bar before dinner and closes it~ but those are a rarity and exception. It is common to get 18>20 dives in a week, most go and log 25. This is a dive resort, not a vacation resort.

The diving at CCV is indeed for advanced divers. There might not be any current, no deco dive depths, no treacherous shore entries... but it only rewards advanced divers... those with great buoyancy abilities and observational skills.

Do not be put off thinking you won't fit in. If you are eager and want to learn the simple tricks of locating the cool stuff, others will show you. If you're a diver who yacks thru the briefings and then crashes down to 140 feet and thinks the dive is a race- you might be on your own. If you ask one of the regulars for some pointers, prepare for an education. They may well learn a few things from you, too! It's a tribal kind of place.

Southside diving on Roatan is only visible to such advanced divers. Newbie divers also love it- but why not? They aren't really seeing much yet anyway, and CCV's boats and Shore Dive are so very simple that they are a perfect training ground, Dockside Dive Center's magic instructional touch is well known. The bulk of divers that show up on Roatan, however, are at that "next step". They aren't newbies, but they are just "beginning to see".

Most of us are very comfortable with what we know and what we can recognize. Every intermediate loves Lobsters, Parrot Fish, Baracudas, Moray Eels and other big fun stuff. Don't forget the Shark Dive questions and the "will I see a Whale Shark?" threads. The establishment of the "Roatan Marine reserve" on the North and West have been a boon to tourism there- divers can once again find all of the stuff that they can recognize.

The Magic of Roatan, though, is hidden in the lush reefs of the South side. Divers who have great buoyancy, divers who can hover with no motion, divers who have been trained to see what others fly by- they see what lies hidden~ right before the eyes of others.

CCV is lucky in location. From the moment you walk into the shore dive- it becomes an aquarium of delights, right from the window of your Cabana- and out the 250 feet to the 140' Prince Albert wrecked tanker ship in 35>65fsw. That and the DC3 aircraft is the happy home of many critters, large and small. The two walls are also part of the shore dive. If you don't see a SeaHorse on every dive, follow the DM a bit closer.

Skip the wide-angle lenses. Bring the macro... and the micro! or a magnifying glass. Here's what they saw last week on the South side: http://www.docksidedivecenter.com/WeeklyLog.html

It's the little stuff. You can't know what you don't know. Stay shallow, go slow. See it all. Just understand- it really is a dive resort.
 
What an amazing, well thought out post! I am leaving Saturday morning for my first trip to Cocoview, and I am so very excited....this is going to be a very long week. :D
 
Penopolypants:
What an amazing, well thought out post! I am leaving Saturday morning for my first trip to Cocoview, and I am so very excited....this is going to be a very long week. :D

You're right and the week you are there will be 1/2 as short as this week is long....
 
I agree with you completely Doc!

CoCoView is not someplce to go if you want to play volleyball, party all night, hit the clubs, etc. If you don't like to dive, you won't be happy there.

But if you like to dive just a little............. it's gonna suck you in and never let go!

CoCoView was my first real dive trip. I had only made 5 dives since completing my OW before I went.

Now I compare everything to CCV!
 
Doc, Any thoughts on Anthony's? How do the two compare? I'll be there in August with a group. First trip to Roatan and reallly looking forward to it.
 
merxlin:
Doc, Any thoughts on Anthony's? How do the two compare? I'll be there in August with a group. First trip to Roatan and reallly looking forward to it.

They compare favorably.

AKR (Anthony's Key Resort, often misnomered as Saint Anthonys) is located on the far West end along the North Side.

AKR has long featured ProDive boats, deep Vee hulls which are well suited to the conditions found there (Sept>March). During the months of March -> September, the oceans on that North side of the island are dead calm (barring tropical storms which usually go 70 miles North to Belize). The reason they are flat is that the North side is shielded from any E & SE breezes by the high ridgeline backbone of the island.

The greatest advantage to AKR is the easy and close access to the West end. For those who like a sunset beer and different restaurants every night, that's a real bonus.

It has recently gotten extremely pricey for the casual traveller. Their weekly rates are $1300 to $1700. :11: Other AI Resorts on Roatan range from $700>1200, so I believe that AKR is trying to market differentiate itself from the others by price. They will have to add some concierge level services to make this fly in the long term. They also discount the trips heavily for tour leader of groups, so the trips are more desirable to be sold in bulk by others. It makes perfect sense... why beat your head to sell one room for $850 when you can have a dive club leader sell it in bulk and still pay you the $850. They look like a hero and you get the money with little work.

They do make most of their revenue off of catering to the volume of cruise ship divers and the Dolphin Encounters / Dolphin Dive. They essentialy have a license to print money. Say what you will about canned dolphin shows, but they do a good job and the critters really seem to prefer partial captivity over absolute freedom. AKR has been around since Day 1, they had the first and only (now defunct) Casino, Peter Hughes started out there as a DM. Talk about history!

The biggest downside? The interminable steps up to every meal. The restaurant is located high up on the hill, so every meal is preceded by some cardio. That and the total lack of breeze.

Some people do not like the need for boat taxis to get from the key to the resort, and as forgetful as I am, this I can relate to. There is a large volume of foot traffic through the place from locals passing through on their way to their village at the end of the road. The shore diving, although technicaly possible, is a hassle and not terribly rewarding due to the character of in shore reef structures (or lack thereof) on this side. Their night dives are by boat and appointment and for a fee.

The big plus is that this is the single most kid friendly resort I have yet to see. They have programs for everything from babysitting to Dolphin Camp. It's an easy, fun place to take entire families to and come away with a great vacation.

Roatan is a beautiful example of how to balance out reports of dive resorts. The operations are very isolated, even if they are right next door to each other (most are not). Visitors rarely have the opportunity to really examine more than one resort, property or dive operation during a visit. Most walk away with a very narrow limited impression. Each and every resort property has its fans.

There is no one resort for everyone.
 

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