actually... you would have to go the other way for it to truly be considered evolution..
I would have to create an evolutionist, and that would make me GOD!!!
I like that.
Creation vs. Evolution
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I would have to create an evolutionist, and that would make me GOD!!!
I like that.
OK....now you know you're GOD, what are you going to do next!I would have to create an evolutionist, and that would make me GOD!!!
Crap.....Take the day off!!
(It's sunday here you know)
You can never find a Diety when you need one........ :ne_nau:
lamont
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If you believe that "god and creation" is an exclusive-or with "evolution" then (and only then), yes, you are correct. If you don't deny evolution and can still do the science while believing in "god and creation" then you won't wind up working for the Chinese.
Ignorance of science, genetics and evolution isn't going to help us compete in the 21st century. We already have a big enough problem with producing people with a basic scientific background in math, physics and chemistry -- believing that genetics and evolution are wrong as a core value of our culture isn't going to help us at all.
Warthaug
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That's the law of conservation of energy. You're missing the second part -
"energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another"
Biological entities are very good at converting energy from one form to another - light + CO2 and H2O into sugars, sugars into ATP, ATP + stuff to make everything else, food into ATP, etc, etc, etc.
Everything in the universe is energy; as mass is a form of energy. That's what the whole E=mc2 things about. But the energy (mass) we consist of, and the energy we use, it not special; its the same mass/energy that makes up the rest of the universe.
bryan
Bryan...
While I completely respect your most erudite posts, in this case I think you may well be so intently examining the tree that you're missing where it is.
It is exactly the point that everything that exists is energy in one form or another, It is exactly the point that everything is inter-related, and within a dance of change.
If you don't think that that's special I guess it's all in how we look at things.
Why are the religious always such pricks? No one was calling you any names, then you have to start attacking people.
First, I know that first comment wasn't directed at me, but I'll have you know that I'm neither an atheist nor a liberal. But go ahead and label, that's always fun.
Second, yes, I know what faith is, I was raised Catholic, and went to Catholic schools my entire life. Trust me, I know the definition of faith.
I also learned from some very smart teachers that a person can be a person of faith and a person of science at the same time. You just have to be able to seperate the two and have the ability to realize the Bible, despite what some will tell you, is not a literal book and at the time, religion was used as a way to explain those natural occurances that people were unable, or unwilling to understand.
Of course we now know for a fact that many of the Biblical explanations for natural events are incorrect. So why do some continue to insist that they'll just go with "God dun it" until something better comes along? That's not faith, that sounds like looking to hitch a ride on a bandwagon to me.
So, enough with assuming that everyone who doesn't believe that God did everything we can't perfectly explain is some godless heathen.
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