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Fire on dive boat Conception in CA

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by divezonescuba, Sep 2, 2019.

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  1. DiveFlyDive

    DiveFlyDive Angel Fish

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    In the airline context the procedure is to extinguish or cool the battery with water and deposit into a firesock bag. They are then normally left in the bag, submerged in water ( an emptied toilet waste bin can be used).
     
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  2. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    There must be because it’s the rule. I’m told (heresay) that the back cabin doors were usually left open.
     
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  3. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    In liveaboard dive boat captain context, you throw the whole mess overboard.....
     
  4. rjack321

    rjack321 Captain

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    Welcome to scubaboard.

    There was no locked hatch
     
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  5. xmass-Eve

    xmass-Eve Barracuda

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    Maybe you should read the whole thread before making a comment like this. And even worse... it's your first comment ever!
     
  6. dmaziuk

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    Server rooms aren't supposed to have people sleeping inside, correct. The ones equipped with dry suppression systems often have a couple of isolating gas masks (or whatever they're called in English) in very visible and highly accessible locations.

    In a conversation I happened to have this morning I was told that codes covering our server room are: "there must be a wet system to protect the building". I.e. they are not there to protect the multi-kilobucks' worth of computers, and similarly the sprinklers in your condo may not be there to protect the inhabitants.

    (And for a dry system, there must be a room, somewhere on the premises, full of gas tanks that get regularly inspected, recharged, and all that.)

    PS and don't call it Halon: it's an improved formula that isn't quite so bad on the ozone layer, with a different name.
     
  7. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi Wookie,
    I am not an advocate for a dryer vent fire. Their was a question regarding whether or not the vessel had a below deck clothes dryer. When I was on Conception it did. The Vision has one right at the transom in the lazerette. As I recall the Conception did have a CO2 system in the engine room.

    DD speculated that criminal negligence charges may be filed. I "feel" that may be the case as I don't see any scenario whereby Conception becomes an instantaneous conflagration--stem to stern, keel to masthead. A licensed captain or mate performing their duties diligently should have had enough time to get people rolling out of their racks.

    YMMV!

    M
    PS: That hatch was tested by me. I guarantee you that I could navigate that egress hatch quite quickly. Also, there has to be an egress path forward in the shower compartment. Passengers had that route available even though they would have to briefly transit a small landing that was exposed to the galley and salon area.

    I slept with a flashlight, shoes, a towel to douse with water, and water.
     
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  8. edm81363

    edm81363 Divemaster

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    Hi -

    I live and work on Research and Exploration Vessels for 6 months a year, and have done this for the last 10 years. @Wookie has made some great points that reflect actual vessel operational knowledge.

    In the USCG STCW Firefighting training, one learns how exceptionally fast fire can spread on a vessel. There doesn't need to be exploding tanks, flaming batteries or magic pixie dust for that happen. Boat fires are a huge threat for this very reason.

    And the smoke from a fire can fill a compartment in a VERY short period of time. I've been in full bunker gear with a super hot rollover 1m or so above me and it is quite uncomfortable. Without the gear, I would retreat immediately.

    Lacking similar experience, it is a fools errand to determine on how one might react in an actual fire.

    Granted, I only work on SOLAS vessels, but paying attention to the safety features of a vessel, the muster point, ships signals, firefighting apparatus and lifesaving appliances is an action that could save your life.

    With regards to this specific incident, it is a terrible tragedy for all involved, including the surviving crew and vessel operator. Time will hopefully provide some answers.
     
  9. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

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    It's pretty much sounding like the entire salon/galley had reached flashover before it was detected. No idea how or why. Nobody is running through a 25 MW/sec fire in their underwear.
     
  10. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    But you are a Mariner. If you’re not, you sure know a lot about being one, or you slept at a holiday inn last night.
     
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