General Vortex Incident Discussion

[Cleavitt]

As sad as this is I could see it being made into a life time movie.

Well between this thread and others, the dive community has already written a novel about the accident. It even includes conspiracy, back stabbing, and alternate endings.

I kept up with it the first few weeks, but as of late have been away. Its sounds like the poor man is still missing, and it has yet tbd if Vortex was negligent with the key, or if the lock was jimmied or a countefiet cave card was used. The missing diver posted his dive plan to his Facebook page. Some mysterious Eastern European cave diver was with the missing diver a few hours before his disappearance and has posted videos of the diver on U-tube. and now some people are upset that so many rescources are being consumed to find him. And even in the midst of this Vortex is open for business and doing well. Has this all proved to be correct? There must be something new that I cant find or this thread would have dried up.

Thanks to anyone who can correct or add to my brief summary.

That pretty much sums it up. Jax summed it up pretty well in this recent post:

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/5510473-post1776.html

Here is the summary in my mind...

• He's still missing. Many experienced cave divers have stated that he physically could not be beyond the areas they have searched in the back of the cave because it's too small for any human to fit. Family seems to think the cave divers just aren't brave enough to go where their son was going.
• It's possible he is still elsewhere in the cave...or anywhere outside of the cave. It's certainly a mystery.
• Many of the same cave divers helped drag an ROV and its tether into the cave for the Sherriff, but of course it couldn't fit in the smaller areas that the divers have already searched. At least the people on the surface got to see a little bit of what the cave divers are up against.
• It's believed by most that he was bypassing the gate on his own. He was doing at least some of his dives outside of Vortex business hours so this makes sence.
• Posted plan on Facebook and it was a plan that was likely to end badly.
• Not sure the Russian/Eastern European diver has much to do with this other than he caught the victim on video shortly before the accident (days?, hours?).

No new useful info in quite a while. Maybe come back in a month or so. We'll either be talking about where he was found or...debating if cats or dogs make better pets.

 

[Wobbegong wannabe]

I believe that's part of it, that and. They just don't know how to proceed with other possibilities.

Would the unusual location play a part as well? It's probably difficult to conduct an investigation if you're not familiar with the terrain, rather than looking for a body in the woods or something more normal where you could go take a look yourself. Are none of the Sheriff's Office people cave divers?
It seems like all you divers and the SO have made a huge effort to recover this guy and/or find out what happened. There was a murder victim here recently that police believed had ended up in a flooded mine shaft. The police dive team took one look, said 'Sorry, too dangerous, she's staying there', so she did. Despite their understandable grief, I hope the family are grateful for all your efforts.

EDIT: high·fa·lu·tin, high·fa·lu·tin, high·fa·lu·tin now I know. lol

I thought maybe you meant 'affluent'

 

[Kevin Carlisle]

Would the unusual location play a part as well? It's probably difficult to conduct an investigation if you're not familiar with the terrain, rather than looking for a body in the woods or something more normal where you could go take a look yourself. Are none of the Sheriff's Office people cave divers?
It seems like all you divers and the SO have made a huge effort to recover this guy and/or find out what happened. There was a murder victim here recently that police believed had ended up in a flooded mine shaft. The police dive team took one look, said 'Sorry, too dangerous, she's staying there', so she did. Despite their understandable grief, I hope the family are grateful for all your efforts.


I thought maybe you meant 'affluent'

Thank you. As a member of the cave diving community a lot of us were there to help. To answer your question about the SO, no the don't have cave divers. I think some counties do but Holmes county does not. If a body was to be found an ICURR diver would recover the body and bring it OW where a deputy on their OW dive team would take over. Its just a bad situation and now its 6 weeks later.

 

[Divedoggie]

It's the only way we'll ever get the names of the smoking WKPP members and GUE instructors

You could always waterboard Rob for the names!

 

[Docc]

Some of Alohagal's remarks on this thread last eve got a little "testy". As many of you know, Alohagal and I have been dating for almost a year now. She got a little belligerent with some of her posts last night and I have given her a proper spanking for acting out in the Cave Diving Forum. I have her promise that she'll behave from now on (or else she gets another spanking).

 

[Jax]

Some of Alohagal's remarks on this thread last eve got a little "testy". As many of you know, Alohagal and I have been dating for almost a year now. She got a little belligerent with some of her posts last night and I have given her a proper spanking for acting out in the Cave Diving Forum. I have her promise that she'll behave from now on (or else she gets another spanking).

. . . . . Um . . . :ignore:

 

[mike_s]

Some of Alohagal's remarks on this thread last eve got a little "testy".

Oh... not near as Testy as some deleted posts here got the other night.

 

[Kevin Carlisle]

Some of Alohagal's remarks on this thread last eve got a little "testy". As many of you know, Alohagal and I have been dating for almost a year now. She got a little belligerent with some of her posts last night and I have given her a proper spanking for acting out in the Cave Diving Forum. I have her promise that she'll behave from now on (or else she gets another spanking).

LOL, I didn't hold it against her. You two haven't been on your monthly tropic vacation in a while. That's enough to set anyone off. Major withdrawels!!

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

Its the internet, what else would we do on it other than surf porn and bitch at each other? Ain't nothin personal, just the internets.

 

[mike_s]

Some of Alohagal's remarks on this thread last eve got a little "testy".

well, she's been known to be a "Pot Stirrer" before at Vortex... IJS...

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