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If you dive alone, you die alone ...

Discussion in 'Solo Divers' started by BCSGratefulDiver, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi Rich,

    Hmm...I think buddy diving is important. I believe buddy diving should be taught from the start and taught better than it is. However, buddy diving is not the end-all and be-all. Am I understanding your post?

    I don't know how people would react to it if introduced later. I think a person who is committed to Tech diving would grasp it well.

    Thanks for the thought-food,

    markm

    Caveat Emptor: The opinions of this diver are his and his alone based on his subjective view of diving. I dive for me. I don't dive for PADI, SDI, SSI or any other agency. I don't dive to fulfill the requirements of the greater good; therefore, I do not dive for the collective. It is OK if you don't like my opinions.
     
  2. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Closed-minded much?

    Caveat Emptor: The opinions of this diver are his and his alone based on his subjective view of diving. I dive for me. I don't dive for PADI, SDI, SSI or any other agency. I don't dive to fulfill the requirements of the greater good; therefore, I do not dive for the collective. It is OK if you don't like my opinions.
     
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  3. redacted

    redacted Guest

    Interesting. For one thing, we would not have as maqny divers. There are divers, perhaps quite a few, who would be unwilling or unable to dive outside the buddy system.
     
  4. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi JamesBon92007,

    I think we must differentiate your goals for diving, your strategy for diving, and your tactics for diving from mine.

    With your experience, you probably have at least 5 times the knowledge that I do. But, much of that knowledge may be wasted on me because I don't dive the way and the places you do.

    Our diving experiences are different. We are different. Your opinions about diving are different. Nothing wrong with that. To each his own.

    markm
    Caveat Emptor: The opinions of this diver are his and his alone based on his subjective view of diving. I dive for me. I don't dive for PADI, SDI, SSI or any other agency. I don't dive to fulfill the requirements of the greater good; therefore, I do not dive for the collective. It is OK if you don't like my opinions.
     
  5. dumpsterDiver

    dumpsterDiver Banned

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    I agree, the buddy system often presents a false level of security, but the feeling of security when diving with another person can be very real, especially for a new diver or when going in a new environment.
     
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  6. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi awap,

    Do you mean that dependent divers would avoid a system like that? Or, the riggers would be too much for otherwise mentally capable people (people who are mentally prepared to take on the challenge)?

    markm
     
  7. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    Yeah, it's called OW. The RSTC already covers it in the OW certification, how hard the instructor works to implement an understanding and use of the system seems to be the problem. As long as the focus is in fast easy classes, I don't see a change coming.


    Bob
     
  8. redacted

    redacted Guest

    I am not calling them 'dependent' divers but divers who would probably not dive without a buddy. I'm sure my wife/buddy is in that group.
     
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  9. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi Bob,

    Do you think there is enough repetition and skill practice to create muscle memory with subconscious action in an OW diver class? Even if the instructor does a good job covering the basics?

    markm
     
  10. JamesBon92007

    JamesBon92007 Great White

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    Well, from what I have read here (and other threads) I am not qualified to do the kind if diving I've been doing for nearly 48 years. Suddenly I need a new C-Card to do what I've been doing for decades. For me diving (free or scuba) is no more unusual than mowing the lawn, going to the grocery store, or swimming laps in my pool. I consider riding my bicycle in my neighborhood the most dangerous thing that I do and driving my car is probably second.
     
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