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SeaCobra:
I see your point, but consider these. If I walk into a dive shop, and just the owner working the desk and I are there, and we strike up a conversation, let's say he tells me:
1.) That he believes Brand A dive computers are much higher quality & easier to use than Brand B, and...
2.) That diving air down to 150 feet is no big deal, just fine, he's done it at the Blue Hole off Belize a bunch of times.
What accountability is there? What follow up?
Now, let's stay I go to the Suunto or Oceanic sections of this forum and post that one or the other is more durable & has a better interface across a range of models. Or I go to the Advanced section & share that my local dive op. is telling me deep diving on air down to 150 ft, instead of the usual 130 ft, is fine and safe as long as I watch my air supply & use a big tank, and that nitrogen narcosis in such conditions is over-rated.
Am I not likely to trigger some people contesting these views?
ScubaBoard is an online forum, sort of like a virtual meeting room, and only as good as the posters who choose to participate in a given topic. That said, it seems the open public nature of it affords some (not perfect) quality control, and the large & involved membership quality info.
Richard.
You have the right to slime our community just as I have the right to call you on your Shenanigans. To be clear: I didn't call you a name. I called your contention bone headed. IOW, I attacked the idea and not you. Why do people make statements and then get so confrontational when people disagree with them? Are you that threatened by the disagreement? Not only do you take criticism personally, you take disagreement personally as well. You first complained about people not being held accountable, and now you are complaining for being held accountable. Which do you want?
The best part about having your understandings and beliefs challenged is that it helps to refine them. Personally, I find such an exchange invigorating as I try to understand reality as it applies to me. I have no qualms in postulating certain things, and I don't mind if the criticism I engender for it is a bit acerbic. Even gold needs the heat of fire in order to become more valuable and so it is with our assumptions and conclusions. In the same regard, the dross never likes the heat and withers away complaining about it all the while. Sharp disagreement is part of the accountability you seem to think is lacking. Yet another myth put to rest here.
Oh yeah, before I forget again... I did call:
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And uncensored. People can read your contention and the several who disagreed with it and come away with their own opinion. There is room for more than one opinion here on just about any subject. I would point out here, that all of them appear to be honest as well. Unlike yours, some are even substantiated.My opinion, the one that you call bone headed but I call honest, remains unchanged.
I pointed out that this is absolutely false. Most axe grinders realize a lot of "follow up", and you are experiencing that right now. I get the fact that you have a "list of sheepskins as long as your arm" and you seem to believe that this makes you infallible. I covered this phenomenon in Post #3 of this thread. No matter how many degrees you have, you are still wrong about the follow up. No, I don't expect you to capitulate the point, as you are way too busy being insulted that I had the temerity to disagree with you. Some people find insult where none was intended. Even in the midst of experiencing such "follow up" you seem embattled to prove that your contention is less than bone headed and you have not succeeded. My mother called that arguing with a sign post and taking the wrong way home. Yes, you're pretty good with strawman arguments that seem to have me saying things I did not. Let's stick to the point.If someone "grinds their axe" about a particular company or product, there isn't any follow up.