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MaxAir Swim Fins - Stay Down Longer with Less Effort

Discussion in 'Classifieds: Other Gear & Multiple Items' started by TECreation, Nov 21, 2015.

  1. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board Staff Member

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    Skeptics can become your biggest fans or your harshest critics. They have the temerity to voice what others are merely thinking. Treat us poorly and you've lost a prime opportunity to learn about our concerns and preferences.
     
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  2. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You are absolutely right. Until now there has been no way to objectively compare the performance of fins. The testing process we set up is designed to be as objective as possible. It is based strictly on the numbers. Time to complete the course and Air Consumption. Great pains are taken to minimize the errors introduced by the human factor. To this point all test were run by the same person but we now have enough fins that we will be starting to use other independent testers.
     
  3. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I sincerely hope to learn about everyone's concerns and preferences. TECreation is at that stage in the development process where your input is of utmost importance. Keep the comments coming. I just drove over to visit with Shotmaster this morning and he tried the fins in his pool. He noticed the difference between his Seawings and the MaxAir immediately. But I will let him tell about that. A posting by him should come soon.
     
  4. Shotmaster

    Shotmaster Contributor

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    I will tell everyone that I was impressed immediately with the thrust generated. The fins plain and simply work! I will also tell you that for there is no comparison to conventional fins. The science is real. I am retired Military and I have already contacted several people at the action offices that evaluate dive equipment for our most elite divers in the Navy, Army, Air Force, and Marines. The people I contacted today are all interested based on my first hand experience, and trust, knowing that I would not waste their time. I work for a major manufacturer of military rebreathers and we will be testing and considering a possible manufacturing arrangement next week in Tampa. For the military combat diver, Pararescue, or free diver these fins produce more thrust and speed for the same level of effort. The carbon fiber free dive fins look cool, but do not provide the performance one would expect. If you try these, you will junk the ones you have. I recently bought my Scubapro Seawing Novas, paid $200.00 for them, I really felt good about the improvement I got from them, but today ruined that perception, I saw and used some fins that are vastly superior. I will be working to help get these into production. There are benefits for the average scuba diver in that these fins produce thrust when conventional fins just produce turbulent water. You have to see them and feel them working in the water, it would be difficult for me to describe here. 5 minutes in the water will tell you everything you would want to know. Shotmaster.
     
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  5. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Thanks Shotmaster, It was a pleasure meeting you and getting your input. I look forward to a productive relationship.
     
  6. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Don't forget the #MaxAirFin will be at @divebluegrotto This Wed. 5/25/16. Don't miss the #Finergy
     
  7. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Due to temporary illness #MaxAirFin will NOT be at @divebluegrotto today. Stay tuned for more opportunities for #Finergy
     
  8. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Another review from Ft. Lauderdale. Dr. Hoad Harris of Fargo ND found the Maxair fins, "awesome!
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  9. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    We don't need testimonials or anecdotal experience. We've been down this path before with Force Fins and extremely enthusiastic users. Either we need reliable objective data or we need to do A-B comparisons ourselves. The attributes of fins have been hyped for quite a long time. I would say that split fins passed their peak quite some time ago. See the following from the DGX website:

    Beware of Fin Hyperbole
    Fin designs are an aspect of dive equipment that seem more like fashion trends, and there seems to always be someone promoting "a better mousetrap." Most of these elaborate fin designs work fine when used to move forward at a modest speed using a flutter scissor kick, and the split fin design tests especially well in this regard. However, many designs are poor if you wish to frog kick or use almost any of the swimming techniques preferred by experienced divers in tight spaces. Even with a full scissor kick, the fancy fins are weak when swimming all out against current, or working to overcome the drag of a drysuit or technical equipment. Full foot pockets and elaborate heel strap systems are also more likely to cause the loss of a fin in forceful swimming.

    We've always been mystified by the preference for fancy fins, but then we saw a video of a large number of divers swimming in a variety of different fin designs and had an epiphany. Many of these fancy fins actually do seem to help swimmers with very poor swimming technique, particularly if the diver is using a kick that looks like they are pedaling a bicycle. Be skeptical of those "fin performance reviews" that favor the casual recreational diver; many experienced divers who have learned how to swim properly will choose a versatile no-frills open-heel fin design with a stiff blade and a strong, reliable spring strap at an affordable price.
     
  10. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Orlando FL
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    Thank you for your reply. We have already done extensive quantitative testing and provided the results to you.
    TECreation Development Products | MaxAir | High Efficiency Swim Fin for SCUBA
    As far as I know, no other fin maker has ever done that. Now we are asking you to try the fins for yourself and test them the way you would like. The videos posted are the results of that. We have already offered to visit with you when you return to Florida so you can test the fins personally. Are you going to take us up on that?

    Meanwhile we will be at Pennyroyal in Hopkinsville KY on June 24 to offer open testing in the morning. We hope some of you midwest divers join us.
     

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