PADI Divemaster without Advanced?
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Because some of us bring our drysuits even.to warm destinations because we like them. A DM should have some familiarity with them.
What happens when VIS drops in those tropics, it does happen sometimes. If you tell me your canceling the dive that I'm paying a lot for with travel cost etc because your DM doesn't have the necessary experience I'm going to be very mad.
as mad as if someone mistook you for the guy from Alaska?…
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You need AOW to become a divemaster in the manual. But if you cross-organization and they are not so strict it could be a loophole but that apply to everything.
The more I've learned about "Advanced" in this thread, the less impressed I am with the "course". Seems more like a showcase of potential "specialities".
The English language certainly takes a battering from that marketing use of the word "advanced".
The English language certainly takes a battering from that marketing use of the word "advanced".
Are you seriously not reading any of the responses in this thread?
As has been said repeatedly, the "advanced" course was indeed created in the mid 1960s as a sampler of different kinds of dives in the hope that students would find something of interest to spur further investigation. That was always its purpose.
When it was created, it was the most advanced course a diver could take. There were no other courses then, so the name made sense then.
See post #10 for a more complete explanation.
@boulderjohn - absolutely appreciate how the Advanced Open Water came about in that it's absolutely not Advanced... I learned a lot from your excellent and informative posts.
However, the marketing chimps still persist with using that misleading name.
It's a pure personal experience thing. When I started to dive I did the OW and AOW in quick succession. They were easy to do and it got me doing follow-the-leader diving in the Mediterranean. Of course I knew nothing about diving except what I had been taught and told. The issue was those skills were fine in the benign conditions, and pretty worthless in the more challenging northerly climes. As an "Advanced" diver, I felt rather short changed.
You don't know what you don't know. With very little experience, there's a lot you don't know. With a lot more experience all you do know is more about what you don't know.
However, the marketing chimps still persist with using that misleading name.
It's a pure personal experience thing. When I started to dive I did the OW and AOW in quick succession. They were easy to do and it got me doing follow-the-leader diving in the Mediterranean. Of course I knew nothing about diving except what I had been taught and told. The issue was those skills were fine in the benign conditions, and pretty worthless in the more challenging northerly climes. As an "Advanced" diver, I felt rather short changed.
You don't know what you don't know. With very little experience, there's a lot you don't know. With a lot more experience all you do know is more about what you don't know.
The LaCO ADP course I still think is worthy of its name. 100 hours of instruction, night dives, altitude dives, boat dives, how to best read various weather reports for diving, more advanced entry/egress, etc. Still a shadow of its former self and only available to a very small subset of the US Diving population though
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