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Should we get pony bottles?

Discussion in 'Advanced Scuba Discussions' started by phoenix31tt, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Mr. Black

    Mr. Black Divemaster Candidate

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: West Indies, South East Asia
    Pony gas isn't part of the dive plan either. The fact that you may need to switch to a pony to ascend from max recreational depth means something has gone wrong already. There's very little NDL at 40m. Dealing with whatever emergency caused you to now need your pony may well have bumped you into a few minutes of deco.

    Anyway it's a free world and I am not a pony salesperson. I just put my opinion and reasoning out there into the mix.

    Sent from my HTC One
  2. maniago

    maniago PADI Pro

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Mid-Atlantic (MD)

    I guess its called an X-bracket - everyone sells them - google it - but heres an example Amazon.com: New X-Bracket Pony Bottle Mounting System: Sports & Outdoors

    Good welder? No, not even a passable welder is required. You could even silver solder something like this if you wanted. Just get the right pipe diameters and a hack saw and have at it. You could probably even do it out of PVC drain pipe and dope from home depot...Still at $35, its not really gonna break the bank either way. I think with the two tank bands, I have maybe $50 in my two setups...

    ---------- Post added March 7th, 2014 at 02:21 PM ----------

    In the mil-flying world, we used to call them bailout bottles - a very small O2 finger tank strapped to your ejection seat - but that term makes no sense to divers really. Still, the same idea - to get you to a breathable atmosphere...
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  3. phoenix31tt

    phoenix31tt DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Trinidad and Tobago
    i like that.. i will check it out.. doesn't seem to pricey... not to mention i actually don't have to worry about cambands... i get to use hers from her BP/W until she returns :D
  4. CT-Rich

    CT-Rich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    I used to teach my science students that accidents don't happen when one thing goes wrong, they happen when two things go wrong. Either losing your buddy or having a system failure should not be a problem. the fatalities happen when they both occur.
  5. theskull

    theskull Divemaster

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: St. Louis, MO
    Totally agree with all points here. If recreational diving with a trusted buddy and good skills and habits, a pony bottle is completely unnecessary. If diving deep with an unreliable or untested buddy, it is essential!

  6. Freewillow

    Freewillow Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Brussels
    I have yet to see a recreational diver with a pony here in Europe. For the kind of dive in warm and clear waters and with a trusted body, I think the best solution is to have 15L (S100/120?) tanks with double exits. Two independant and separate first stages and regulators. But this is only my setup.
  7. maniago

    maniago PADI Pro

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Mid-Atlantic (MD)
    Each to his own. When I fly on an airlines plane - or a small private plane - I don't carry my parachute. When I'm doing aerobatics, I do (ok forget that this is all regulated).

    As long as you've consciously evaluated the predive environment, made a reasonable decision, what else could anyone want? Every decision in life has its risks and its consequences. If you're choice is to mitigate every risk, you probably should have never left the womb.
    Bob DBF and Kharon like this.
  8. DaleC

    DaleC Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Leftcoast of Canada
    It's a mistake I try to correct whenever the womb doesn't have a headache.

    moderation in 3..2..1..
    CT-Rich, rhwestfall, Phil_C and 3 others like this.
  9. Alabama

    Alabama Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Hollywood, FL
    Running out of gas is not an option. No one should ever have a contingency for running low on gas...you just don't do it. Where the pony is helpful is when things go sideways that are beyond your control. For instance, what if the high pressure line blew? Or worse, a burst disk. What if your first stage froze? Those are the reasons to carry a pony.

    I'm curious as to why you have so many "We Won't" statements.
  10. PfcAJ

    PfcAJ Orca

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: St Petersburg, Fl
    If a HP hose bursts, it takes a REAL long time to drain a tank.

    The rest (well, all of it, really)is solved with a proper buddy which you should have anyways. Its just not genuinely needed since you're both diving minimum gas and near each other. If you're not, you need to be heading to the surface anyways.

    Plan your dive, manage your gas, stick together.

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