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Good job finding all that straw at this time of the year.
This statement is misleading, either from a lack of understanding, or intentionally.To those prior, I offer the following retort:
So, you know deep stops to be a sham then, do ya?
Set your decometre to GF100/100 and crack on, then.
A perfectly reasonable suggestion, and some divers are running with flat gradient factors. I typically plan dives and set my computer to gf60/80, which is flatter than most (but obviously not 80/80).It's been previously mentioned that there would be less DCS risk to do the same deco time without the deep stops. This begs the question: why not eliminate the deep stop altogether and run flat GF's. An 80/80 profile will give less deco time than a 50/80. You'll probably say, "Well, a not-so-deep stop will protect the faster tissues. But, fast tissues can be protected by slowing down the ascents. Now, what say you?
This statement is misleading, either from a lack of understanding, or intentionally.
What you might say instead is: "If you think deep stops are a sham" (as you put it) ...
... then take the time you normally spend decompressing on your VPM-B+3 or RD profile, and figure a GF40/X, or GF 50/X, etc., profile with the same decompression time. If you do that, then you're likely to be lowering your decompression risk. Same decompression time, lower risk.
There's no sense in going to GF100/100 unless you're diving VPM+x profiles that gives you the same decompression time as a GF100/100 profile. Then instead of doing GF100/100 you might at least consider thinking to yourself, "Why the heck did I ever trust bubble model theory so much that I got this aggressive?" and consider backing off a bit.
Cite for the last part of that sentence, please?the presently available material indicates that deep stops have probably been overemphasised becomes
scientific evidence proves deep stops are certainly wrong.
Cite for the last part of that sentence, please?
Ah. My bad. Since you were bringing up that point here on SB, in this thread, I stupidly assumed that you were talking about discussions in here, which in my mind would be appropriate. Bringing in - and misquoting by embellishment - a more than three year post, on another forum, which BTW is well known for quite saltier language than what we see here on Scubaboard, looks pretty much like a strawman argument to me.on a general level, to illustrate the sort of ultimative perceptions growing in or from these discussions, I have chosen to pick an example from a different board;
"...Criticly the recent studies have already debunked deep stop theory and called into question the validity of VPMB type profiles..."
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