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Try Scuba Accident..what happens next?

Discussion in 'Scuba Related Court Cases' started by Alexx007, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    insisting that taking a stand is easy, or proper, or even correct is a very first world perspective and does not account for a lot of the realities people in this world face. And when things unravel....well the legal system is not the same in many places as it is in the US....some places litigation is not an issue.

    -Z
     
  2. Protondecay123

    Protondecay123 Nassau Grouper

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    There is nothing first world about that perspective at all other than your perception. You can look at Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc (except Egotism, Libartarianism Or Objectivism) and the teaching is the same. Placing your personal welfare above someone else’s life is wrong. Flatly.
     
  3. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    And Shakespeare wrote: "nothing is right or wrong, but thinking makes it so"

    First world, developing nation, and third world are not a religious issues,they are socioeconomic issues.

    -Z
     
  4. divinh

    divinh Photographer

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    What exactly do you think you're contributing? You've offered some calculations based on constant air consumption, as if you have no understanding of diving, that air consumption doesn't vary with depth, stress, exertion, etc. Is that how you do dive planning? If not, then why do you think it's a valid way to analyze this incident? Or any other?
     
  5. divinh

    divinh Photographer

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    The main issue in the incident is that the instructor lost sight of the diver. The instructor had two DSD divers and one OW diver. The OW diver should be self-sufficient. The question becomes whether having two DSD divers to tend to is too much for one instructor. That's the question at hand.

    The air issue is just something you're adding, as speculation. The instructor is already at fault and for some people, there's a need to add more blame.

    As for painting the reputation of Koh Tao based on a few incidents, where exactly in the world has there been no incidents with tourists that you can point to?
     
  6. divinh

    divinh Photographer

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    For this incident, did it seem that the conditions were dangerous? The first dive went fine and there doesn't seem to be a statement to say that the conditions changed suddenly. The instructor lost sight of the diver. Perhaps it should be one instructor and one DSD diver only? And the instructor has to be holding the diver either by the tank or hand during the dive?
     
  7. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    Yes, everything you have stated is 100% correct and Koh Tao is absolutely a safe place to vacation, does not deserve any tarnishing of its reputation, and everyone should go there to vacation. Plus, you have certainly moved all aspects of this discussion forward in an enlightening way with everything you have contributed, and I, apologetically, have not.

    Thanks for straightening me out.

    Cheers,
    -Z
     
  8. divinh

    divinh Photographer

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    No problem.
     

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