caveseeker7
Contributor
Thanks Ron, I appreciate that. Coming from you it means a lot.
Your article on partial pressure is still the best I've read.
My financial situation hasn't allowed me to buy my own rebreather yet,
but I'll get there eventually. Luckily a friend has two, and there are still
a couple of rentals in the L.A. area.
Espenkogen, you really need to do your homework.
Your posts are likely doing more damage to your dwindling reputation than to rebreathers. The problem you're incurring here is not that we disagree with what you say, but that you lack knowledge and data to proof your points.
Ron and I for example may disagree on subjects, or choose different units.
But the reasoning behind our opinions and choices is usually sound and easliy respected by the other. As they should be.
We, and most others who are regulars in this forum, have made and continue to make an effort to learn, to add to our knowledge, skills and experiences. We also make an effort to share knowledge and experiences by contributing to forums, publishing articles, and in Ron's case teaching people how to dive rebreathers.
There were several factors contributing to Dave Shaw's fatal accident that accumulated. Some of them individually would have likely had a different outcome. Unfortunately they were for most part diver error and thus preventable. Bounce diving to depths like these is pretty much uncharted territory and the margin for error becomes very, very small.
But to use it as an example for CC diving being more dangerous seems rather stupid knowing that the diver he attempted to recover found his end on OC. You should be able to figure that one out.
Obviously you have some intrest in rebreathers. You've found this forum, read through the archive. You'll find a myriad of information and links to yet more information. Your wrongful comments in regards to the Ouroboros and APD CCRs were completely unnecessary. Manuals for all three units are available for download from their manufacturers' websites.
There is nothing wrong with not understanding something and asking, but there is something wrong with not knowing or understanding something and making statements like some of yours.
Even if you don't like rebreathers, and want to save the diving world from them, at least make an effort to argue intelligent, well educated points. Then no one will fault you, the discussion will be more intresting and responding will not seem like a waste of time just to make stop.
BSAC in England also keeps some records on accidents.
One needs to place those numbers in context, though.
While RB diving has become more mainstream since Dräger introduced tha Atlantis and Ambient Pressure Valves the Buddy Inspiration, the majority of diving is done in the extended range and technical specialties. Just the number of divers doesn't really reflect the relation as you would be counting every resort vacation bimble diver.
If you look at the number of dives, the hours of diving and the profiles that RB and especially RMV-SCR and CCR users dive you'll see numbers from a different perspective.
Divemole's
Inspiration website has both a very intresting user survey (unfortunately not updated in a while) as well as fairly up to date data on fatalities on that particular unit. Both very much worth reading and analyzing.
Your article on partial pressure is still the best I've read.
My financial situation hasn't allowed me to buy my own rebreather yet,
but I'll get there eventually. Luckily a friend has two, and there are still
a couple of rentals in the L.A. area.
Espenkogen, you really need to do your homework.
Your posts are likely doing more damage to your dwindling reputation than to rebreathers. The problem you're incurring here is not that we disagree with what you say, but that you lack knowledge and data to proof your points.
Ron and I for example may disagree on subjects, or choose different units.
But the reasoning behind our opinions and choices is usually sound and easliy respected by the other. As they should be.
We, and most others who are regulars in this forum, have made and continue to make an effort to learn, to add to our knowledge, skills and experiences. We also make an effort to share knowledge and experiences by contributing to forums, publishing articles, and in Ron's case teaching people how to dive rebreathers.
There were several factors contributing to Dave Shaw's fatal accident that accumulated. Some of them individually would have likely had a different outcome. Unfortunately they were for most part diver error and thus preventable. Bounce diving to depths like these is pretty much uncharted territory and the margin for error becomes very, very small.
But to use it as an example for CC diving being more dangerous seems rather stupid knowing that the diver he attempted to recover found his end on OC. You should be able to figure that one out.
Obviously you have some intrest in rebreathers. You've found this forum, read through the archive. You'll find a myriad of information and links to yet more information. Your wrongful comments in regards to the Ouroboros and APD CCRs were completely unnecessary. Manuals for all three units are available for download from their manufacturers' websites.
There is nothing wrong with not understanding something and asking, but there is something wrong with not knowing or understanding something and making statements like some of yours.
Even if you don't like rebreathers, and want to save the diving world from them, at least make an effort to argue intelligent, well educated points. Then no one will fault you, the discussion will be more intresting and responding will not seem like a waste of time just to make stop.
Accurate accident information, even exact numbers, are often hard to come by.mnj1233:
BSAC in England also keeps some records on accidents.
One needs to place those numbers in context, though.
While RB diving has become more mainstream since Dräger introduced tha Atlantis and Ambient Pressure Valves the Buddy Inspiration, the majority of diving is done in the extended range and technical specialties. Just the number of divers doesn't really reflect the relation as you would be counting every resort vacation bimble diver.
If you look at the number of dives, the hours of diving and the profiles that RB and especially RMV-SCR and CCR users dive you'll see numbers from a different perspective.
Divemole's
Inspiration website has both a very intresting user survey (unfortunately not updated in a while) as well as fairly up to date data on fatalities on that particular unit. Both very much worth reading and analyzing.
And when I want to know more, I will come here and then research on my own. 
