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Zero to Master Scuba Diver in 10 months

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by stuartv, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. Superlyte27

    Superlyte27 Cave Instructor

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    What's this "lead" you speak of. :D :D :D
     
  2. Centrals

    Centrals Barangay Pasaway

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    1. Never ever showed my MSD card to anyone or brought up the subject in a conversation.
    2. None of my mates/buddies know about that either.
    3. I did the course because I want to further my training.
    4. There is nothing to write home about.
     
  3. Storker

    Storker Divemaster

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    Nope. Personal experience. Not saying it's universal, though.

    Good. Because that's what I was talking about.

    What are these "quarries" you talk of?

    That misconception is either in your head, or it's a straw man you're setting up. My claim - my only claim - was that statistically, a cold water diver is less likely to be a vacation diver unable to dive safely without a DM holding their hand, and more likely to have proper buddy skills.

     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2015
  4. dumpsterDiver

    dumpsterDiver Banned

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    I dove with this one buddy for years from his boat. We used to spearfish on a wreck with the top deck around 160 - 165 ft and we would do 8-12 minutes of deco. I never asked about his certification. Then one day... he says he wants to go on vacation to some resort and he says he needs to get a certification card to be allowed to dive. He wanted to know if I knew any instructors who would give him a card. I was really surprised and asked him how he learned to dive...

    Said he was self taught, started snorkeling (with no real mentor), then after a year or so, got some scuba gear and just went a little deeper every once in a while and after 8 yrs or so he was diving past recreational limits.

    I pretty much never ask anyone what certification card(s) they have, but if they tell me they are a "dive instructor" (without prompting) .. I am generally really watchful of them, because this type of person is all too often, pretty terrible in the water.
     
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  5. KWS

    KWS ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hi Superlyte

    I assume it is me you are referring to me in the first para. That's ok learning takes place in every success or failure. You have to admit that the conditions were not optimal given Katie just passing through and the parking lot's still not dry from being under water. And no, i'm still not good in currents like we had. Hind sight says I should have waited for a few weeks before trying it.

    Other than that you are right, you never can tell who are the naturals and who are not. NO matter what there are things that only time and experience can provide.



     
  6. Superlyte27

    Superlyte27 Cave Instructor

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    I wasn't picking on you too much KWS. And I wouldn't have thrown you under the bus. :)
     
  7. KWS

    KWS ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    No biggy,, there were a lot of things learned on those dives

     
  8. Diving Dubai

    Diving Dubai Instructor, Scuba

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    Yes and No. A Warm water diver, will be more cautious dropping into cold, because of all the points you correctly raise. However (again generally speaking) a cold water diver freed of those restrictions jumping into warm water is more likely to be more complacent about the conditions and more likely to be caught out.

    I'm not saying one is better than the other, I just wish that some cold water people would give the warm water environment some respect. Not all of us go diving with DM's holding our hand.

    ---------- Post added October 18th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ----------

    Storker. I'm not having a "pop" at you personally - yours was just the post that caught my attention. Again a WW diver is probably going to be more cautious about the cold water environment that a CW diver going to warm. Ive seen quite a few CW divers who just aren't up to the grade because they underestimate our particular challenges.

    I personally find the cold debilitating. If I were to dive in your local I'd be stuck to you like glue, having all sorts of issues wearing thick gear, and blowing through my air (mainly muttering about how cold it was through my reg) and a whole host of different issues. But how would you cope in my climate? Kitting up in 45C (+110F in old money) with humidity in the 80's - having the surface water temps in the 30'sC (+90's) but knowing that downstairs the cold water upsurges will be at 20C (68F) A completely alien environment to what you're used to. We would equally be fish out of water in each others back yards.
     
  9. AfterDark

    AfterDark Solo Diver

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    As a life long cold water, low vis, ocean diver I find diving in warm clear water much less challenging. Even just fining along is easier without all the extra gear. I don't think I'm a "better" diver, but I do think my regular diving environment has prepared me to deal with other environments with comfort and with confidence.
     
  10. Storker

    Storker Divemaster

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    I agree.

    I don't belive anyone has been saying that, either.

    I believe you

    Absolutely. It would probably kill me to have to kit up in 45C, and downcurrents scare the living heebie-jeebies out of me.


    I see now that stirring the cold water vs warm water pot was thoughtless of me, I wasn't aware of how it might well be interpreted. Do you mind letting the issue go before the thread turns into another trainwreck? I'd be happy to do that.


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