enough "self-rescue" in AOW?

[M DeM]

Refreshers can also be done in Open Water, but there are few skills that could only be practiced in the pool within PADI standards.
The one notable is that even though the OW student originally practiced a CESA in OW, we are NOT allowed to include it when doing a Refresher in OW, only in the pool.

I'm guessing it's a liability reason that you're not allowed to teach it in the pool for the refresher?

 

[M DeM]

I’m sdi. They require 25 dives to become an AOW. Not 5 like padi

I'll check SDI out...

 

[JackD342]

I'm guessing it's a liability reason that you're not allowed to teach it in the pool for the refresher?

CESA is a pool only skill in PADI refreshers. Anything outside of standards is not insured, and can result in loss of membership.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Not being a cold water diver, can I ask why you'd need that skill more for cold water than warm?

It is harder. Exposure protection is bulkier. A lot more weight is required. A lot more. So weight distribution is key. Student may or may not have a weight belt so they could wind up upside down after removing their kit.

 

[Scott]

I’m sdi. They require 25 dives to become an AOW. Not 5 like padi

You're not comparing apples to apples. SDI AOW is not the equivalent of PADI AOW. SDI Advanced Adventure is.

 

[M DeM]

I'm very curious about SNSI and RAID, as I've been hearing/seeing videos of some pretty thorough training.

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I just looked at the SNSI rescue class and it's EXACTLY what I want. However, there's only one certified SNSI place in the US and it's in Texas! But I can take the itinerary and give it to a padi instructor and pay for a private lesson, I guess.

 

[M DeM]

It is harder. Exposure protection is bulkier. A lot more weight is required. A lot more. So weight distribution is key. Student may or may not have a weight belt so they could wind up upside down after removing their kit.

Ahhhhh... that makes sense.

 

[Diver below 83]

You're not comparing apples to apples. SDI AOW is not the equivalent of PADI AOW. SDI Advanced Adventure is.

That’s not correct at all. Both padi and sdi have adventurer certificates just like both have advanced open water. So yes I’m comparing apples to apples. Padi advanced requires 5 dives before Advanced open water. Sdi requires 25 dives before advanced. Just because sdi requires more dives doesn’t mean they aren’t the same type of rating. They are. Just different standards for different agencies. As pointed out padi wants all instructors to follow a strict platform. Sdi allows the instructors to tailor fit the course to each student based off the comfort level the instructors feel the students are currently at.

 

[Diver below 83]

You're not comparing apples to apples. SDI AOW is not the equivalent of PADI AOW. SDI Advanced Adventure is.

Here is a link that shows both “advanced” courses are the same level for each respective agency. They just have different requirements for the starting point. Sdi being requiring more dives.

SDI advanced course and PADI advanced course - Dive Timor Lorosae

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

I just looked at the SNSI rescue class and it's EXACTLY what I want. However, there's only one certified SNSI place in the US and it's in Texas! But I can take the itinerary and give it to a padi instructor and pay for a private lesson, I guess.

That'd be with Bill Batten most likely. That's be a good class. Where are you located?