terallan
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Hi mate,
Just been following this thread, listening with interest and on many other forums on the subject of hookah.
Where does one start....let's get the health and safety out of the way first, as a certified diver myself (hookah user of 17 yrs, gold, anodes, you name it) it goes without saying that breathing compressed air underwater carries risks, doesn't matter what depth. You are your own council on safety, so as long as you understand the risks. With the sort of response you've had here, I'm sure you've had your fill of advice on safety. All I'll say is understand the risks, then we can have some 'positive' discussion on using hookah. I'm sure like many other hookah newbies you're sick of the 'you're going to die' on hookah.
The topic of hookah on this and many other forums always wanders off into a rammy from the bully scuba world. I've listened to some of the 'gash' negativity towards hookah users and quite frankly, unless these SCUBA bullies actually have used a hookah rig, 'most' of their responses are speculative and guess work. What do they think they are breathing, uncompressed air? How does the dive shop fill their bottles, do they inspect the filtration systems, do they actually know what clean air is? They would give your hun end the toothache listening to some of them.
Clean air is clean air, whether it is supplied in their cylinders at 300bar or pumped into a keene receiver tank at 40PSI.
There are perhaps other long term hookah users on here too that put up with the hastle and negativity, why don't you guys give it a rest with so much badgering. If it's not related to stereotypical scuba practices, most of you guys are flapping about like nutters. Do your homework on low pressure systems, compressor systems, filtration, etc., then come and badger me with some negativity, inacurate and inconsistent info, see how you stack up.
But, on a negative/positive note, that silly rig is without a doubt questionable and unsafe, you see, we do have common sense! On a positive note, what I'd do is put a 5 micron filter in line, 1/8" NPT to 1/4"BSP adaptor on the pump, which incidentally is a diaphram oil-less compressor, smaller, but on the 'SAME' principle as the Keene/Thomas T80 unit, but smaller/cheaper. Pop that onto the keene, LP20 harness, line and regulator. If you were on a T80, you still run the risk of a mechanical failure either way, at least if the pump goes, the receiver tank holds some air and you will feel the strain on the reg.
I expect incoming fire for sure
Just been following this thread, listening with interest and on many other forums on the subject of hookah.
Where does one start....let's get the health and safety out of the way first, as a certified diver myself (hookah user of 17 yrs, gold, anodes, you name it) it goes without saying that breathing compressed air underwater carries risks, doesn't matter what depth. You are your own council on safety, so as long as you understand the risks. With the sort of response you've had here, I'm sure you've had your fill of advice on safety. All I'll say is understand the risks, then we can have some 'positive' discussion on using hookah. I'm sure like many other hookah newbies you're sick of the 'you're going to die' on hookah.
The topic of hookah on this and many other forums always wanders off into a rammy from the bully scuba world. I've listened to some of the 'gash' negativity towards hookah users and quite frankly, unless these SCUBA bullies actually have used a hookah rig, 'most' of their responses are speculative and guess work. What do they think they are breathing, uncompressed air? How does the dive shop fill their bottles, do they inspect the filtration systems, do they actually know what clean air is? They would give your hun end the toothache listening to some of them.
Clean air is clean air, whether it is supplied in their cylinders at 300bar or pumped into a keene receiver tank at 40PSI.
There are perhaps other long term hookah users on here too that put up with the hastle and negativity, why don't you guys give it a rest with so much badgering. If it's not related to stereotypical scuba practices, most of you guys are flapping about like nutters. Do your homework on low pressure systems, compressor systems, filtration, etc., then come and badger me with some negativity, inacurate and inconsistent info, see how you stack up.
But, on a negative/positive note, that silly rig is without a doubt questionable and unsafe, you see, we do have common sense! On a positive note, what I'd do is put a 5 micron filter in line, 1/8" NPT to 1/4"BSP adaptor on the pump, which incidentally is a diaphram oil-less compressor, smaller, but on the 'SAME' principle as the Keene/Thomas T80 unit, but smaller/cheaper. Pop that onto the keene, LP20 harness, line and regulator. If you were on a T80, you still run the risk of a mechanical failure either way, at least if the pump goes, the receiver tank holds some air and you will feel the strain on the reg.
I expect incoming fire for sure
