WJL
Contributor
Okay Bob,
I'm not trying to insult you, or even pretend I'm smarter. As you say, the back and forth of discussion is how ideas are tested.
Can we agree on this much? The GUE Fundamentals class has certain gear requirements. All of that gear can be obtained from sources other than Halcyon. Some of that gear is sold by Halcyon, a company owned by JJ, who also controls GUE. To the extent that the class stimulates participants to buy new gear, some of it may be purchased from Halcyon.
In your last post, you seem to suggest that at least part of the point of the class is to sell gear in general. In my opinion, if this is a "business model" to sell Halcyon gear, it is not very effective, since most of the gear sales would go to somebody other than Halcyon. It's kind of a stretch to argue that JJ organized GUE and set up the Fundamentals class as a means of increasing gear sales in general. If the point of the class were to sell gear, then gear would be offered for sale as part of the class, which of course it is not.
A more reasonable interpretation of the DIR gear requirements is that GUE believes that certain gear makes sense, and certain gear does not.
I have no doubt that some of the non-approved gear is called "crap" by some DIR advocates. This does not seem all that terrible to me. I have heard the same thing said about BP/wings and long hose setups.
Concerning the "stroke" label, you're the only one who's even mentioned it in this thread. As far as I know, the Fundamentals instructors never use this term in class. They do try to explain why certain skills are important, and why certain diving practices are less safe or not optimal. That's a good bit of what the class is about. The class is designed to show you how to be a more skillful diver. It's not about making you feel better by insulting other divers.
I'm not trying to insult you, or even pretend I'm smarter. As you say, the back and forth of discussion is how ideas are tested.
Can we agree on this much? The GUE Fundamentals class has certain gear requirements. All of that gear can be obtained from sources other than Halcyon. Some of that gear is sold by Halcyon, a company owned by JJ, who also controls GUE. To the extent that the class stimulates participants to buy new gear, some of it may be purchased from Halcyon.
In your last post, you seem to suggest that at least part of the point of the class is to sell gear in general. In my opinion, if this is a "business model" to sell Halcyon gear, it is not very effective, since most of the gear sales would go to somebody other than Halcyon. It's kind of a stretch to argue that JJ organized GUE and set up the Fundamentals class as a means of increasing gear sales in general. If the point of the class were to sell gear, then gear would be offered for sale as part of the class, which of course it is not.
A more reasonable interpretation of the DIR gear requirements is that GUE believes that certain gear makes sense, and certain gear does not.
I have no doubt that some of the non-approved gear is called "crap" by some DIR advocates. This does not seem all that terrible to me. I have heard the same thing said about BP/wings and long hose setups.
Concerning the "stroke" label, you're the only one who's even mentioned it in this thread. As far as I know, the Fundamentals instructors never use this term in class. They do try to explain why certain skills are important, and why certain diving practices are less safe or not optimal. That's a good bit of what the class is about. The class is designed to show you how to be a more skillful diver. It's not about making you feel better by insulting other divers.
