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Darin:
Will Scubase allow me to hook up my DC to the computer and download it directly to the software? Or will I have to download it with Oceanlog then import it to Scubase?

Thanks

Darin

You download it to Oceanlog first, then import it to Scubase. The physical interface to the DC is proprietary to Oceanic. Scubase imports the Oceanlog file.

Hope it helps!
 
I'm using Ocean Log with a Versa Pro and think it does a pretty good job. (this is a not an air-integrated computer) Outside of saying you're disappointed and it's a sad showing, what doesn't it do that you want it to do??

It's a big improvement over the program that ran with my DataPlus that only logged data points when crossing 10' thresholds.

The only problem I've had was when I set the Versa Pro sampling interval to 2 seconds and the Versa Pro ran out of memory in three dives on a day when I did four. Set at 60 seconds, I can do a full liveaboard trip without data loss. This a limitation of the memory on the VersaPro, not Ocean Log. At least Ocean Log allowed to manually enter the missed dive (just no graph).

As a sidenote, the saved data is a MS Access (.mdb) file type but I can't get Access to do anything with the data.

And I like Ocean Log more than Suunto Dive Manager, for whatever that's worth.
 
Well, there are a number of different things I don't like it. In hopes that an Oceanic software developer is reading this...

1) No calculated SAC, I gotta do it myself.

2) If I maximize a window to full screen, I don't get anymore viewable area and still have to scroll to see the information I want.

3) The icons in the software are hard to remember what they are. A name would be better.

4) I want to be able to put in more info. Wetsuit, weight, weather conditions, dive conditions, tank size, etc, etc.

5)In the graph page (and others), the black writting on dark grey sucks, esp. with a LCD laptop screen.

6)The graph is choppy and run together, I want more definition to read my profile better.

7) I want better printable logbook pages. I want something I can print to size and put in my log.

8) I want more options. I want a powerful application that will grow with me throught my dive career and experience. I might not care about nitrox now, but I want the ability to work it into my log later on.

9) The download seem a bit hit and miss at times. I haven't had any problems lately, but when I first loaded it, it didn't want to work, I had to tweak it to run it.

10) I want it to make coffee in the morning.

Anyway, this is a small list but I come up with other things it seem like everytime i use it. It just doesn't seem to be very user-friendly and ill thought out. They obviously didn't have much actual diver input when they released it.

Love the computer tho...

Darin
 
Odd. I have so far only looked at the software and manually entered some sample dives (for practice, as I have 2 weeks before my first dive trip with the new computer), but I don't see some of your complaints. Maybe it has to do with the DC you are using it with? I have the Versa Pro compatible v1.0.3, and I have black text on light yellow for the text bars. And it may not be the best possible solution, but there is a text memo page that is associated with each dive, where you can put as much info as desired beyond what is in the form. Maybe not the best imaginable software package, but for a free download it doesn't seem too bad. :wink:
 
Well, I popped for scubase and it is pretty nice. It does most of the things Darin mentions below (except the coffee).

Getting it set up is sort of a pain. If you want to try before you buy, you have to download the ~30meg file from their very slow server. Then, if you decide you want to register it, you have to go through the whole process again.

Now that it's up and running, though, I am a satisfied customer. Would recommend to anyone who wants oceanlog to do more.



Darin:
Well, there are a number of different things I don't like it. In hopes that an Oceanic software developer is reading this...

1) No calculated SAC, I gotta do it myself.

2) If I maximize a window to full screen, I don't get anymore viewable area and still have to scroll to see the information I want.

3) The icons in the software are hard to remember what they are. A name would be better.

4) I want to be able to put in more info. Wetsuit, weight, weather conditions, dive conditions, tank size, etc, etc.

5)In the graph page (and others), the black writting on dark grey sucks, esp. with a LCD laptop screen.

6)The graph is choppy and run together, I want more definition to read my profile better.

7) I want better printable logbook pages. I want something I can print to size and put in my log.

8) I want more options. I want a powerful application that will grow with me throught my dive career and experience. I might not care about nitrox now, but I want the ability to work it into my log later on.

9) The download seem a bit hit and miss at times. I haven't had any problems lately, but when I first loaded it, it didn't want to work, I had to tweak it to run it.

10) I want it to make coffee in the morning.

Anyway, this is a small list but I come up with other things it seem like everytime i use it. It just doesn't seem to be very user-friendly and ill thought out. They obviously didn't have much actual diver input when they released it.

Love the computer tho...

Darin
 
D_O_H:
Well, I popped for scubase and it is pretty nice. It does most of the things Darin mentions below (except the coffee).
Getting it set up is sort of a pain. If you want to try before you buy, you have to download the ~30meg file from their very slow server. Then, if you decide you want to register it, you have to go through the whole process again.
Now that it's up and running, though, I am a satisfied customer. Would recommend to anyone who wants oceanlog to do more.

I went ahead and bought it as well. My biggest reason for buying it was so I could merge my old DataPlus dives together with my newer dives logged with Ocean Log/Versa Pro. Now I have every dive I ever logged electronically in a single program.

I see a few things you lose when moving to Scubase:

You can't "replay" your dive.
You lose your nitrogen and O2 load graphs.
You can only see the high and low temperature from a dive instead of looking at the temperature at any given point during the dive.

I like the SAC rate calculation. I like the ability to merge pictures into the dive.

I'm not at all disappointed but Scubase isn't everything to everyone either.
 
I just purchased the Pro Plus 2 dive computer and I am having problems with downloading as well. The download gets some information but not all. I am currently working with Oceanic on a solution but I am not hopeful that I will find one other then asking for a refund on the PDC. My local dive shop installed the software for the first time and is also having the same problem. I will try to keep you posted on the results.

SharkA1A

Darin:
Is it just me, or is anyone else disappointed with the quality of this software? Yes, it's free but where they get you in the wallet is for the $100-$120 special data cable to connect it to your PC.

Does anyone know of any other software out there that is better and I can still use the cable to download to my PC?

Maybe another program that I at least can import the data file from oceanLog?

It is a pretty sad showing for software. Anyone have any ideas?

Darin
 
Maybe I better post this again. It looks like my postiong is not correct. I just purchased a PRo Plus 2 PDC and I am also experience problems with the download data. I only get part of the data. The dive shop installed the software and is having the same problem. I do not get my total dive time and therefore it will not show a graph. I'm not sure if I even have all the data points to graph since it will niot graph it wihout a total dive time value greater then 0. I am working with Oceanic on this but am not impressed with their response time. My dives were in a pool 9 foot or less but I would think this wouldn't matter if it is recording data the data should be downloadable. I'm giving them one for week and then I am asking my dive shop for an exchange to Scuba pro.

SharkA1A
 
this software is reading from a simple Access data base file extension .mdb Yes one would think their software would be better then it is. My unit will not download all the data. I am working with Oceanic on this problem but I am not impressed by their response time. Unfortunabely for them their first response had a phone number and I ahve been using it since. I will try to keep you posted on my results. If I find time I will write a Visual Basic inteface to this access the database and possible figure out a way to post it to this site. Anyway, good luck.

SharkA1A.


jagfish:
It's probably just be my own shortcomings in using this software, but I just can't get myself to like it.

My downloads work flawlessly.

However, I can't fully add in dives manually (that were not done with the computer). I can add some of the dive information, but when I get to the date field, some kind of fatal error comes up. I reported this error to the tech support email address given for the software several times. I think I would have more luck sending Viagra email spam to a convent. Nothing at all from Oceanic tech after over a year of trying...

Also, since my computer is AI, it obviously calculates SAC to arrive at air remaining times. However, the computer must have decied that this information will only be shared on a "need to know" basis, and I am not on the "need to know" list.

Does anyone know how to choke the SAC rate out of this software? It must be very simple and I am sure I will kick myself when someone points out how to do it quite easily.
 
SharkA1A:
I am working with Oceanic on this problem but I am not impressed by their response time. Unfortunabely for them their first response had a phone number and I hAve been using it since.
Next time you talk to them tell them that I personally know of three people (I'm on of 'em) who prefer their algorithm to SUUNTO's but bought SUUNTO computers instead because the Oceanic log software is such incredibly useless JUNK! And that I also know of a shop that quit carrying their computers entirely because the owner got so frustrated with having customers angry with that sorry excuse for a program. It looks like something some teenager cobbled together in an afternoon. (Sorry, teenagers, no insult to you intended)
Maybe that will get their attention.
S
 

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