WillAbbott
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I did some searching, and couldn't find any thread directly relating to this, so here goes (feel free to redirect to another thread if I missed it, and it relates directly)
I'm looking for a new undergarment. Currently I have a USIA dry suit, with the exotherm II undergarment (http://www.usia.com/exotherm_II_III.htm)
I currently wear an REI top and bottom from thier mid-weight fleece long underwear (polartec 100), then a fleece vest, and finaly my USIA suit.
It's currently taking me about 30lbs of lead to sink, but once at about 10' depth my wing is at least 1/2 full or more of air.
I'd like to find a suit which is more in a compressed state, or doesn't compress much... in other words something like the thinsulate, which from my understanding has very similar bouyancy at the surface as at depth.
I know GI3 (if you know the name) and many others in the DIR crowd advocate and use only thinsulate undergarments.
The sheer price is stagering... looking at the size chart for stock sizes I am a XS for the waist, a Medium for the chest, and a Large for the height... this doesn't work too well, because either I will have a suit which is too tight/short, or too big around the middle, with excess bulk... so I pretty much need the special production, which is a whopping $200 more... OUCH $618 for an undergarment, I could buy so much other gear for that much money, that's almost 2 tanks.
it seems I may end up getting around 30-40% off from my shop, which would make it just under $400 for the special production (better but still spendy)... also it would probably take at least a month to get the thinsulate (this is the DUI one BTW), just due to the fact my shop probably wouldn't order it for a week, then at least a week to be made, then at least a week to get it back.
I know UP, and many others are using the SoftWare, so please let me know at least how it holds up bouyancy wise. The price is deffinately MUCH better for custom size, and the amount of time I hear it takes to get one.
So has anyone ever actually compared the 2 suits, if not, those with the software, how does it hold up bouyancy wise? does it compress much if any? do you find you need excess weight to sink, and excess lift to be neutral at depth?
My curent config is about 31.5lbs with plate, and I have to fully exhale, and not move just to sink, yet at 10' my wing is full of air... I want to get rid of some of this excess weight I'm carrying, and get my wing down to holding minimal air.
I'm looking for a new undergarment. Currently I have a USIA dry suit, with the exotherm II undergarment (http://www.usia.com/exotherm_II_III.htm)
I currently wear an REI top and bottom from thier mid-weight fleece long underwear (polartec 100), then a fleece vest, and finaly my USIA suit.
It's currently taking me about 30lbs of lead to sink, but once at about 10' depth my wing is at least 1/2 full or more of air.
I'd like to find a suit which is more in a compressed state, or doesn't compress much... in other words something like the thinsulate, which from my understanding has very similar bouyancy at the surface as at depth.
I know GI3 (if you know the name) and many others in the DIR crowd advocate and use only thinsulate undergarments.
The sheer price is stagering... looking at the size chart for stock sizes I am a XS for the waist, a Medium for the chest, and a Large for the height... this doesn't work too well, because either I will have a suit which is too tight/short, or too big around the middle, with excess bulk... so I pretty much need the special production, which is a whopping $200 more... OUCH $618 for an undergarment, I could buy so much other gear for that much money, that's almost 2 tanks.
it seems I may end up getting around 30-40% off from my shop, which would make it just under $400 for the special production (better but still spendy)... also it would probably take at least a month to get the thinsulate (this is the DUI one BTW), just due to the fact my shop probably wouldn't order it for a week, then at least a week to be made, then at least a week to get it back.
I know UP, and many others are using the SoftWare, so please let me know at least how it holds up bouyancy wise. The price is deffinately MUCH better for custom size, and the amount of time I hear it takes to get one.
So has anyone ever actually compared the 2 suits, if not, those with the software, how does it hold up bouyancy wise? does it compress much if any? do you find you need excess weight to sink, and excess lift to be neutral at depth?
My curent config is about 31.5lbs with plate, and I have to fully exhale, and not move just to sink, yet at 10' my wing is full of air... I want to get rid of some of this excess weight I'm carrying, and get my wing down to holding minimal air.