Buddy breathing vs Octopus

samaka · Mar 5, 2009

Does any one know a case where, in a sharp situation, buddy breathing has worked fine for both the receiving and donor?

Can I find any statistics anywhere on this?

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Luis H · Mar 5, 2009

I had to use buddy breathing twice in real life situation. It was in the early 70't before the common use of the octopus and I was the donor in both cases. It worked fine both times and it was not an issue.

If properly trained on buddy breathing, it is a very effective tool. The octopus or any alternate air source does add convenience and it increases a safety factor, but we used to dive without them for years without any issues.

I don't know of any statistics, but I would search on the DAN web site or send them an email requesting if they have that kind of information.

Blackwood · Mar 5, 2009

samaka:
Does any one know a case where, in a sharp situation, buddy breathing has worked fine for both the receiving and donor?

Many times before 'octopi' were common.

tfsails · Mar 5, 2009

Seems to me that if you're properly trained, there ain't a gnat's ass difference between buddy breathing and using an octo. That's just my 'umble opinion, but it's mine so I'm sticking by it.

Steve50 · Mar 5, 2009

tfsails:
Seems to me that if you're properly trained, there ain't a gnat's ass difference between buddy breathing and using an octo. That's just my 'umble opinion, but it's mine so I'm sticking by it.

If you try buddy breathing with someone who is a bit panicked - you will discover the difference.

Lead_carrier · Mar 5, 2009

tfsails:
Seems to me that if you're properly trained, there ain't a gnat's ass difference between buddy breathing and using an octo. That's just my 'umble opinion, but it's mine so I'm sticking by it.

And they better be trained to do it exactly the same.

Nemrod · Mar 5, 2009

samaka:
Does any one know a case where, in a sharp situation, buddy breathing has worked fine for both the receiving and donor?

Can I find any statistics anywhere on this?

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Yes, me, and my wife was the donar.

In an effort to minimalize I am getting rid of the ocotpus, secondary BS, power inflator garbage and all of that, don't need all of that failure prone crap. Just the bare minimum. Since you can barely carry a tooth brush when you travel, scuba is going to have to adapt to the fact that travel is not what it used to be.

Long hose???? how about NO hose!

N, "N" 2 zen

diver 85 · Mar 5, 2009

Blackwood:
Many times before 'octopi' were common.

yep....just remember---it's 2 in & 1 long out......

LeadTurn_SD · Mar 5, 2009

What Luis_H and Blackwood said.

I know of several real life OOA "saves" using buddy breathing in the mid-70's and early -80's. It was stressful, but no panic.

I've personally never gone OOA, nor have any of my buddies, even when we were all using J-valves. So I've never had to use buddy breathing other than in practice situations.

Prior to widespread use of the octopus, we were trained to buddy breath. I believe the octopus is certainly a better solution for sharing air, but like many I feel that buddy breathing should still be part of the basic OW curriculum.

Safe Diving!

linger · Mar 5, 2009

before I met her, my partner had an ooa and buddy breathed through the ascent, safety stop, and surface. I can't recall why an octo wasn't used.

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