BP/W: I officially don't get it

[MSilvia]

Deleted dumb question.

 

[Gombessa]

I thought Tobin was saying that in this case, a 70lb wing would only be justified if you had to carry enough ballast to compensate for a 50lb positive drysuit. If your drysuit fails at the beginning of the dive and it loses all of its 50lb loft, you'd need a 70lb wing (not 50lb) in order to deal with the ballast originally required to sink that suit.

 

[MSilvia]

Yeah... that's how I read it too... the second time.

 

[joker31]

I'm not terribly surprised to hear that a wing that size will make you face plant, as it has as much capacity as both of my wings combined. What is it you prefer about having a 70lb wing? I'm genuinely curious, as it seems grossly excessive by my standards.

My HP100s are the Genesis/Asahi type that are each -11.5 when full... about a pound more negative than a HP120. Since I think a wing in the 40-50 lb range is pretty sweet with my doubles, I'm wondering what the extra 20-30 lbs of lift in your wing is for. Do you use steel stage bottles or something?

First I got a sweet deal on it!!!! And yes have stage bottles (al), reels, and canister light. When I am fully loaded it feels like I could use a little more lift. I still have to kick a little to at the surface....

 

[cool_hardware52]

First I got a sweet deal on it!!!! And yes have stage bottles (al), reels, and canister light. When I am fully loaded it feels like I could use a little more lift. I still have to kick a little to at the surface....

Aluminum Stages don't impact required wing capacity.

If you have to kick to stay at the surface with a 70 lbs wing you are carrying a lot more ballast than you need.

Tobin

 

[joker31]

Then why are there 100lb double bladders out there if my 70 lb is "too much"?

 

[cool_hardware52]

Then why are there 100lb double bladders out there if my 70 lb is "too much"?

Gotta love your logic. Having failed to detail how a 70 lbs wing might possibly be useful, you now, without any supporting example, suggest that 100 lbs wings must have a legitimate use simply because they are offered for sale.

How 'bout because there's no shortage of ignorant diver's who can't calculate their way out of a wet paper sack and hang on every word uttered by their instructor?

How 'bout because there are gear makers who know that "bigger is better" works?

Let's try to keep things in perspective. 39 years ago when I learned to dive we didn't use any BC's, as in none, nada.

Now the debate is do I need a 40 or a 94????

Tobin

 

[joker31]

Actually it was a legit question....... What would you need it for?

 

[cool_hardware52]

Actually it was a legit question....... What would you need it for?

I've already provided several answers to your question; there is no use for a 100 lbs wing, they are a tax on the ignorant.

You can keep asking but my answers will remain the same.

Tobin

 

[fire_diver]

Actually it was a legit question....... What would you need it for?

Trust me, Tobin aka Cool_hardware52 knows exactly what he's talking about. He is an industry expert as well as the maker of some damn fine technical diving gear. IF there was a need for a 100# wing, he would be selling them.