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How would you have felt if someone took something off your scooter without asking and gave it to someone else who then left it lying around until someone else picked it up and subsequently gave it to another person who needed said part without ever knowing it belonged to you in the first place

Well ... that's basically what happened, except the item that got taken was lost before I could ever track it down and get it back.

As I said, taking the item wasn't the issue ... taking it without asking was. Seems like a simple enough thing to ask first.

There are several folks who have asked me if they could use one of my pictures for one reason or another. I've never said no ... I'm flattered they'd think my pictures were good enough, frankly. But I do always appreciate that they ask first.

Seems only courteous ... then again, courtesy on the Internet seems to be unfashionable these days ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
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Indeed

My point was would you have blamed the person who took it in the first place, or the 'end user'

Depends on whether or not I knew that someone other than the end user had taken it ... if I were to see a picture of mine in an ad, it's reasonable to believe that the person running the ad is the person you should speak to ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Then I'll give you my free opinion, for whatever that's worth. You might want to stick with the conservative approach, that is to not copy posted photos without the user's express written consent. When it comes to approving ads like the current one for Cozumel, it's a good idea to have express written consent to use each of the photos you select. Nothing fancy: a simple e-mail to the photographer like "I'd like to use one of your photos for an upcoming Scubaboard trip poster, is that OK", followed by a "Sure" would probably be enough "paper trail" at least for amateur photogs and this sort of use of their photos.

A basic rule should apply here ... if it isn't yours, ask first before using. Seems like simple common courtesy.
I have either created or overseen the creation of more online education classes than I can count, and they have featured thousands of photos in total. I assure you that using a photo for which you do not have permission can have serious consequences. I know a LDS whose web designer used a photo found on a web site for the LDS's web site, and they were subsequently sued for a healthy amount.

The fact that you found it freely available on a web site somewhere does not mean that the web site you got it from had permission to use it. If you use such an image, you may still be in violation, even if you thought it was OK. (It can be tough.) One of the first web sites I ever made, more than 15 years ago, featured a great picture of Walt Whitman that I took from a site dedicated to that poet. I linked to that site, and one day I followed that link to find that the picture was gone, and in its place was a formal apology for using the picture without permission. They identified the owners of the shot, clearly in response to a threat of a lawsuit. I took mine down quickly.

The problem is that people publish work on the web for which they do not have permission all the time. Youtube just had to publish instructions on copyright violations for that reason. It makes it very hard to be sure you are OK, even if you see the same shot in 50 web sites.

If I look for an image using something like Google images, it usually takes a very, very long time to find one I can use. If I see that the name of a host site ends in .com, I don't even bother to look at it. Sources like .gov are much more likely to get you something you can use. Almost any image in Wikipedia is OK, because they have the same problem. Click on the image and you will find whatever restrictions are in place for its use.

When I find images I like without clear directions, I always ask. You can run into some gold mines that way. For example, I found a web site that had a ton of great marine life shots, and when I contacted the owner of the site, I was given blanket permission for any photo provided that I identified the photographer and the site whenever I used it. Most people who are not professionals selling their work are glad to have the publicity.
 
Mmmmm. WWWD, What would Wu do?

I'm sad for anyone who posts anything online and expects it not to be used some place else.

Pete, thanks for a nice site where people can go to make new friends, find dive buddies, get some scoops to make a basis for informed decisions about their diving career.

Jlyle, thanks for providing me with notes to go with my organic chem book I found in a closet of the place I moved into. I'm going to be chem master now, and design new super sugars designed to turn cow meat into spiders.

Remember, I've got my fish eye on you....
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Organic chemistry is an excellent field of study!

Posting an image by reference (using the URL) is better - you haven't copied it, just pointed to it. In your post (fair use), if someone was really interested, they could simply right click and find out where the original is located and who it belongs to.

Therein lies a tale: I found one of my pictures on a commercial website (again, without payment, permission or attribution) but they hadn't copied the photo, just used the URL. The site owner wouldn't respond to my email so I changed the image to read "**** off!" The picture disappeared shortly thereafter.

BTW, don't be a horse's patootie!
 
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Will you help me with my problems as I struggle through them? I assume this is a free service, as your web page posted no hints as to the cost of such a thing.
 

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