What constitutes a loggable "dive"

[windapp]

I log any dive that merits it. Sometimes it may be short if I have an issue I want to document (such as the situation when my dip tube clogged and I was "OOA"). Generally speaking I will not log a dive less than 20 and preferably 30 min. Depth doesn't matter to me as I may be diving and filming up in the kelp canopy where my maximum depth may dip to an incredible 20 fsw!

Out of interest, did you get scared when you were suddenly and unpredictably without air to breath?

 

[freewillie]

Any dive you want can be logged. Just going through the exercise and gearing up and getting wet no matter how short could count if you want, or not if you think it wasn't long enough or deep enough.

My general rule of thumb is any dive deep enough to trigger my computer and any time long enough I had to check my SPG.

 

[Tyger]

How about 15-15........ Minimum 15' for 15 minutes.....not a pool.

Not a pool? You sure?

Nemo 33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd log that as a dive.

 

[Colliam7]

So what is it folks? What constitutes an acceptable loggable dive for purposes of continuing education where you have to show a dive log?

As many have said, you can log whatever you choose to log. But, to answer your specific question - for purposes of 'continuing education' - from a PADI perspective, here are some relevant items from the Instructor Manual definitions provided at the beginning of the 'Training Standards' section:

Logged dives: To credit a a logged dive for course requirements, the dive takes place in open water and specific information about the dive (date, time, depth, location, etc.) is recorded.

Since 'open water' is specifically required for qualification as a logged dive, another definition may apply:

Open water dives:

Open water is a body of water significantly larger than a swimming pool offering conditions typical of a natural body of water encountered by divers.

To address the point made in an earlier post about Nemo 33, it is worth noting that the definition also states:

There are certain sites (very large aquariums and specifically-constructed environments designed for recreational diving, for example) that provide conditions typically associated with natural bodies of water . . .

I think it can be said that Nemo 33 is definitely larger than a swimming pool, and qualifies as a 'specifically-constructed environment designed for recreational diving'.

And, the definition goes on to state:

. . . divers spend the majority of time at 15 ft or greater, and breathe at least 50 cubic feet of compressed gas, or remain submerged for at least 20 minutes.

The bottom line in all this: A loggable dive for CE purposes is an open water dive where you either spend a certain amount of time or breathe a certain amount of gas, while being submerged for most of the time at 15 ft or greater.

If I jump off a dive boat, to pull the anchor from a wreck at 100 ft, and spend 15 minutes in the water, I log the dive.

 

[cocoajoe]

20' rule? One of my favorite spots is BHB in W Palm and as all the Bridge Trolls know, you're at less than 20' for most if not all your dives.

 

[TMHeimer]

20' rule? One of my favorite spots is BHB in W Palm and as all the Bridge Trolls know, you're at less than 20' for most if not all your dives.

Cosidering this, has anyone ever logged a dive that "counts" while shore diving in Connecticut?

 

[Bob DBF]

Log your dives with date, time, depth, location, and any other info you want to remember (I track the gear I wear and weighting). Make as many dives as you can and let the instructor sort out what dives he wants to accept. 50 dives is nothing if you like to dive, take your time, learn to dive well and you will be a better DM when you get there.


Bob
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“One thing is for sure you can't lie about your skills when you get in the water. The water tells everything!!! “ Mayor

 

[drbill]

Out of interest, did you get scared when you were suddenly and unpredictably without air to breath?

I posted a thread on the situation here years ago when it happened. No, I wasn't scared. My training and decades of diving had me acting out of instinct... began a slow ascent as soon as I tried to take the first breath with no air. Ascended from about 75 ft in 70 seconds. Knowing your response to emergencies underwater is one of the most important things you can learn about your mind and diving. So far, so good. I have always reacted calmly and thought things out as I responded to a situation (although there have been very few over 50 years of diving). Hopefully that will continue to be my mindset in the future.

 

[Rich Keller]

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions about why to log. I started this one so as not to have this question get lost if someone new does a search (of which I came up with zippy).

So now I'm logging and the question is "what is a dive"? I mean, 2mins just below the surface isn't a dive, but 2 minutes at 100' (if you could do that) sure ought to be a dive. My computer gets confused and calls a dive anything below 5' no matter how long. But for a certification, like showing 50 dives for DMC if I started that, would clearly not be 50 x 5'.

So what is it folks? What constitutes an acceptable loggable dive for purposes of continuing education where you have to show a dive log?

Thanks!

(just noticed I can't spell for $h*t, oops)

I have logged a few 5' dives but it was 200' inside a water filled pipe. Bottom line do whatever makes sense to you.

 

[JamesK]

I have a lot of dives that are in 12 feet of water that lasted for up to two hours. by some of your standards that is not a dive. I filmed ow classes where most of my dive was in 15' of water yet it was for me technically a solo dive that needed to be planned. I have been in 6 feet of water for 90 minutes in zervisna cleaning boat hulls. That is a dive to me, but not to some.To me the planning of a dive is important and it does not matter what the depth or time may be. if the dive was planned and you feel it was a dive worth remembering, then log it.