Solo Diving - Two Boat Ops Perspectives

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chrpai

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I was recently deciding between SDI and PADI for my Solo / SRD class. My PADI SRD instructor (Robert Weiss) also held the SDI cert and was very ethical in suggesting that I check out SDI first and make sure I'm comfortable with the PADI card's acceptance in the industry.

So I decided to just ask the crew of various boats that I might want to solo dive one day. Below are their perspectives. I've removed their names to protect the innocent but these are boats you've no doubt heard of. I was quite impressed with the amount of thought that went into their replies.

Boat Op 1:

I hadn’t heard of this specialty, so I did a little research. PADI didn’t list it under there specialty offerings, but a search of their site brought up a shop in the Red Sea that offered it. It said that it trained people to dive independently under the buddy system. This sounded like double talk so I called PADI. They said it trained people to dive solo so they would be ok if they got separated from their buddy. I asked them if this meant they weren’t allowed to dive solo and they said no, they weren’t saying whether or not they could dive solo, but if they did, they were trained to do it. I then called our insurance company and they said they didn’t like solo diving , but the policy says they can dive the way they were trained. So to answer your question, if you have this specialty you are trained to dive solo and can do that on our boats.

Boat Op 2: (Initial Reaction)

PADI’s stance on solo diving has been clear. At least to this point, they do not advocate or train for diving without a buddy. It seems that the Self Reliant Diver distinctive specialty may be a move in that direction, but the course is not a “solo diver” course. It provides training that enhances a diver’s ability to better manage situations such as a lost buddy, a buddy that is too far away to assist, or a buddy who lacks the training or experience to deal with a particular emergency.

(Our) policy requires divers to dive in buddy teams unless they are certified and equipped for solo diving. At this time, the PADI Self Reliant Diver course does not meet our requirements for planned solo diving.

Boat Op 2: (Follow up Reaction)

After our conversation, I contacted PADI and got a copy of the Self Reliant Diver outline and ask them about the intent of this course. I found that the course outline has many caveats and a whole section on the merits of the buddy system, but the bottom line is it DOES qualify the certification holder to dive independently. Based on these facts, we would allow a diver with this certification and the proper equipment to dive solo. However, the Captain has the right to limit or prohibit solo diving based on safety considerations such as sea conditions, diver ability/experience in the offshore environment, etc.

In the end, I went with the PADI SRD course because I've been around Robert on his boat enough that we know who each other are as divers and I felt he'd be a good instructor. Based on where I'm likely to dive, the SRD card should be good to go. YMMV.

PADI is walking a fine line with their position, but I kinda get it. After all, my next class will likely be a DIR-F or primer. Team diving and Solo Diving... whatever makes me a better diver and gives me the opportunity to dive as much as possible.
 
Thanks for the info. I did the SDI Solo course for a number of reasons, such as the manual made for it (PADI doesn't have one, as I recall, though I imagine you could use SDI's for it...), and also something another poster mentioned on the forum - I wanted my solo diver card to say solo diver.

No ambiguous 'kinda like that,' or 'well, ought'a work like that' or 'close enough.'

Solo Diver.

Plus, I didn't want to have to explain to people that PADI's card 'really' was a solo cert. If you got on the boat for a day trip, I doubt they'd call & chat with PADI in time to accept your cert. (if you hadn't already been in communication with the shop before the trip).

Richard.
 
Universal acceptance ( doubt that's actually possible with either ) isn't really a priority to me. The reality is there's no scuba police on Lake Travis. I was solo diving regularly prior to taking the class and no one complained a bit. I don't have that many trips left in me ($) so the boats I mentioned are what counts to me.

The lack of a manual was a little surprising at first. But in the end I don't really need a book written for an 8 year old. The outline format of the material and time spent with the instructor talking about it was fine for me. Still, if I see an SDI manual on eBay, I'll probably pick it up just to make sure I didn't miss anything.
 
I'm with Drrich2 on this one. I'm currently taking the SDI solo course because I want a card that says "solo". I would recommend picking up the SDI book. It's a fairly well written book and informative. I would tend to argue that if you need a book to tell you how, you shouldn't be solo diving, but the book does have good information.

Kristopher
 
I'll second the recommendation for the SDI solo book. It's not cheap, but I found it well written and informative.
 
Yep. Unless you need the card an experienced diver should be able to study the SDI course on their own and be a safe solo diver.
 
Yep. Unless you need the card an experienced diver should be able to study the SDI course on their own and be a safe solo diver.

That is exactly what I have done. The only drawback is I would like an independent assessment of my skills so I'm not fooling myself. My buddies are uniformly comfortable and positive about my skills, and the course director at the shop I'm associated with gave a potential buddy an unrequested solid recommendation.

This has been my modus operendi for many scuba 'specialties'. By the time I can arrange instruction I've already researched the area and know more (theory) than the course provides - or I've been doing it for years. It no longer is money well spent. This is the case with drysuit, altitude, boat, recreational deep (actually the UCSD Senior diver and UC 100-hour course covered that), and solo. I also feel comfortable with Nitrox (sat in on the KR and passed with a higher score than the actual students). I don't hold a card in any of it. If I decide to dive Nitrox or maybe rent a drysuit, the cards will probably be needed however.

There are certain specialties that I would never self-learn. These include any penetration, deco, trimix, or CCR. These all have specific skills than are not included in any level of OW classes. OK, so does drysuit - but I started doing that in the 1980's, long before any classes were offered.
 
I was solo on the dive boat this weekend and got chatting to some of the people. First off, it's always nice when I am the least experienced - plenty to learn.

Secondly, they were mostly CMAS trained. They were saying that out here three star qualifies you for solo diving as well. Has anyone tried that route?
 
The vast majority of my thousands of dives were solo, initially because we only had one rig back in the 60s and more recently because, as a videographer and very frequent diver, it is hard to find buddies here on the island who are compatible (the ones that are are usually dive professionals who are on working dives). Despite this experience, I would only expect operators who know me and my diving to allow me to go solo. However,. I want that option when I am traveling.

Initially I had considered the PADI self-reliant diver cert, but now don't think it would be as widely accepted so I'm looking at other options like SDI.
 
Yep. Unless you need the card an experienced diver should be able to study the SDI course on their own and be a safe solo diver.

Probably, but having taken the course with an instructor (Bill Downey in PA), I have to say the discussion and personal anecdotes that he added to the material were extremely useful. I'm a huge fan of the SDI book, but I learned a lot in addition by having live discussions with someone who knew the subject. I personally feel a lot better prepared to dive solo as a result of getting the material and doing the drills with someone knowledgeable.
 
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