Write Up of Near Death in Monterey

[jjjjeremy]

Woah, this really took off.

I wasn't expecting this response, but I'm glad I shared the article I found!

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I found this on the net... (not trying to stir the pot)

A Note From Doug McNeese - SSI President/CEO

Saw that about a week ago. Expected, I guess.

 

[letterboy]

Regarding a sand filled regulator... your comments are ridiculous. If I saw anyones reg get ground into dry beach sand I would say something. If it were a student, or someone I cared about, I would probably make a big deal out of it and show them how to rinse it out check it etc. Your assertion that nothing should be done is ridiculous. Do you let your 16 yr old pull out of the driveway with one front tire half flat?

I never said it wasn't ruidiculous.

I use every opportunity to try and teach my G/F if she does not know.

personally I would have chosen option 2 and told her it was ****ed up and she needed to fix it before she got in the water. that she needed to pay attention to what was happening around her, situational awareness.

 

[Duke Dive Medicine]

... I suggest you look up the word "coma" and find out what it means too. I take it from your story the whole E.R. staff was incompetent, if your girl was able to pull at intubation tubes, they're not doing their job right.

Though "coma" is in general a layperson's term, I've put numerous patients in what we commonly call a medically induced coma, so the statement is not inaccurate. I've also seen many well-restrained patients pull at their tubes and lines, and that's not a slam on any medical staff, it just happens. Adequate sedation is a delicate balance.

Best regards,
DDM

 

[MMM]

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[t-i-m-1]

One thing that surprises me, is that instructor's insurance policies allow the student to use their own equipment (regardless of the age of it). In the UK one of the main providers prohibit such use, reasoning that it's not possible to prove a maintenance history.

IMO equipment failure is a contributing factor on that dive which lessens blame. Whether the student was ready to be there, class control, duty of care before/during/after the event are other issues.

 

[peterbj7]

One thing that surprises me, is that instructor's insurance policies allow the student to use their own equipment (regardless of the age of it). In the UK one of the main providers prohibit such use, reasoning that it's not possible to prove a maintenance history

Ca you elaborate on that? I haven't heard it before, and I used to work part-time in the dive industry in England.

 

[Primalchrome]

Come on man...That's twice in one day that you were asked to leave people to do their work.

Between this and the very dramatic presentation of the story as a whole... I'd much rather spectate than speculate. There is a LOT of weighted conjecture in the story and we really can't take this as an accurate account. Even if he is a tech diving ER doc with 30 years of experience....he was obviously compromised before the day began and even more so afterwards. We do not know how much of what was related in the story is skewed from his prior attitude and the one that developed after such a traumatic event, but it is obvious from the way it was written that it is an dramatic piece written by a emotionally biased witness and cannot be considered a researched presentation of a series of events.

 

[Dmtowns]

Wow, that is horrible. Deffinately the thing to learn from this is to trust your instincts and get to know who you take couses with prior to commiting.

 

[InTheDrink]

I wouldn't necessarily take trusting your instincts as the primary learning point from this thread. You may want to re all the posts first.

 

[letterboy]

Nah reading all the posts takes way to much time. I just skip to the end and comment. That's easier.