Trip report Sep 2014: Palau Aggressor - VERY BAD EXPERIENCE

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Incident 1: That was stupid for him to say that in a vehicle filled with paying customers and loud enough for everyone to hear that. This is a good legit item to inform the operator about if you felt uncomfortable.

Incident 2: Bringing ones spouse or significant other on the vessel would depend on the policy of the operator, boat owner, and captain. In regards to eating the LOBs I have worked on and been on the crew normally eats what the guests are eating, I know some LOB have fine dinning and then the crew will have a different meal prepared. The normal rule is, crew is not allowed to eat until every guest has been served or has had 1 round of food, then the crew can go ahead and have dinner. If the crew is eating differently then the GF eating the guests prepared food is a legit issue even if there is left overs and guests want a second helping. If the guests are done then I would not see any issue.

The dive master was in the wrong for using this a trip to spend time with his GF he should have been focused on the group at all times, it does not matter the experience level of the divers the DM is being paid to to be with the guests. Some LOB the dive masters are just there to point out a few things keep an eye on the group in case of an incident, others the DM is their to be the underwater guide help point out things to divers, check divers remaining air to plan the dive, this will depend on the operators policy for its crew.

As for the photos if you were asking him to take photos then he should have been following the group or diver(s) who wanted them taking photos to sell, generally if not asked then the photographer will only be taking general photos to sell to everyone at the end of the trip. But the DM should always allow the divers first glance at aquatic life if he is specifically pointing something out. A good DM will generally ask divers with cameras to allow others without to see the specimen first as photographers will spend more time with the subject. If a diver is about to photograph the same specimen as the DM/ photographer about the same time the DM should let the diver go first they are the ones paying.

#3: Dive Site Maps, this can be a touchy one depending on the site and the map, some maps are custom made by the crew, or even have to be purchased and can sometimes be costly. They may not allow those to be photographed especially if it is a site that maybe only that boat knows about and does not want others to know about as this is how they keep business and limit divers at certain areas. But the DM should have politely ask the guest not to and reason why, or if it was ok to wait until after the briefing.

#4: Was this the first dive or a repetitive dive, if the first dive how many times did this happen before the incident? if it was the very first dive of the trip the DM should have calmly and nicely informed the diver, then had a discussion off to the side on the surface. If the diver kept doing this multiple times then yes this could irritate a DM but still he should have kept his cool. On some boats you may loose some diving privileges if you are damaging coral, just because you paid does not mean you can kill the reefs.

#5: Did you loose just the filter or the whole kit? Also knowing their was not string you should have been persistent on having the DM find away to tether the item. Also if you are overcharged a little for an item like that in my opinion that is reasonable as now the DM or boat is loosing money by not being able to rent out the item loosing money, it may not seem like a lot but it does add up. If it was his personal gear he should have told you before hand, any damage or loss to his equipment should be paid to him, the invoices you receive from the boat operator should only include items that are owned or sold by the boat/ operator. If it was boat rental gear then yes you should have an invoice for that.

#6: I can understand how he was thinking but yes it was a bit inappropriate. You should never touch something that is not yours especially electronics. Photographers on the boat make their money with their laptop if a guests damages it then it is going to be a huge ordeal, also that is personal property it does not matter how much you are paying to be on that trip. He may have things set up a certain way and doesn't need someone to screw up his set-up. If they guy was IT and knew what the problem was then he should have said something before just going and touching what is not his.

#7: Logging of dive time and depth- I don't know of any that do not do this, some do it differently. Depending on the boat the DM may log the dive time and max depth they have on their computer for everyone in the group, the other way is the DM will have everyone check the computer and log their own dive time and max depth. This is done for liability reasons for the boat and the operator, in case of DCS they have a record of the divers depths. You should be logging your own times and site info yourself, yes if you were to ask me to see your record and dive site names yes I would show you. Not all operators have the luxury to input your data into the computer and give it to each individual diver.

Also as we do not know exactly how the group of guests was it could have been a very stressful trip and the computer incident put him over the top it happens. That is still no excuse but everyone has their breaking point. Also from experience working on LOB crew sometimes only get 12 hours off if that in between trips, some trips can be very stressful and draining depending on the group and yes just like anyone else they get stressed they need a break but have to keep pushing through. Yes we chose this job and we are supposed to be customer service oriented, put a big smile on, and please everyone but it happens where someone just has their breaking point. This may have been an isolated incident where it was this case unfortunately it does happen from time to time.
 
I have no first hand information as to what happened here but I do know that a good crew can make or break a LOB dive trip for us. For example , we have been on the Dewi Nusantara 3x because of the crew and the service!!!! We have had nothing but stellar service and an amazing crew all 3x onboard, especially when Wendy Brown is the cruise director! Each and every crew member makes you feel like a million bucks and that makes for an amazing experience every time!!!
 
Excerpted from my standard guidance post for liveaboard divers:

A thousand major/minor/uncomfortable/disgusting/annoying/inconvenient things will happen on a boat over the course of a year. Statistically, that means that 20 of them will happen the week you're on board. You won't notice 15 of them. Will any of the other 5 things ruin your trip? Honestly - other than a condition which presents a clear and imminent safety or health issue - whether or not something ruins your trip is entirely up to you. I choose to focus on the things - like diving -that make my trip enjoyable. Folks who choose to focus on the things that will ruin their trip can always find something that will.
 
As mentioned, aggressively going after guests is not professional. It's easy to tell the diff. First you tell them not to nicely, then on day two you ramp up, then you come up with consequences and yelling isn't one of them. Treat me as you're gonna be treated. Making inappropriate remarks to the guests that pay for my business? Next photog willing to live on a boat in paradise, they're a dime a dozen. Businesses live on people's business and word of mouth. If I owned the boat and heard any employee yelling at guests without some obvious very significant reason, they would be leaving the boat with the guests when we got back, or before if possible. People make and break your business, and it's easy to work professionally with people. You're already in charge, why are you yelling?

Who cares about the girlfriend unless she is screwing you out of the service of getting photos of yourself on the trip, or unnecessarily getting in the way of your photos, which it sounds like was your point in mentioning that. I'd start by disregarding them taking photos to get my own, we can talk back on the boat about my paying multiple grands for this trip, then, failing that working, I'd graduate to running into you on purpose when you are shooting your wench.

Red filter for GoPro doesn't cost $140, period so BS.

Aggressor not taking responsibility for anything at all? Amazing. Same story, different time. THey've proven they have an answer for everything and that answer would be no.
 
Red filter for GoPro doesn't cost $140, period so BS.

Who stocks this in Palau, and for how much?

It isn't like running down to Sports Chalet and grabbing a new one. Everything on a liveaboard is at a premium, especially when you lost the only one for 5,000 miles. This, more than anything else on this thread, makes me think that there is more to the story than what we know. We often have customers who are very needy, but have a great attitude (Hi, I have Celiac so I need a gluten free meal plan, or I'm allergic to dairy, so let me know if anything is made with dairy and I won't eat that), but we get the other kind too, the kind that really think they are more special than any one else on the boat. Guess which kind pays $140 for a red go pro filter, and which kind pays $35.
 
Who stocks this in Palau, and for how much?

It isn't like running down to Sports Chalet and grabbing a new one. Everything on a liveaboard is at a premium, especially when you lost the only one for 5,000 miles. This, more than anything else on this thread, makes me think that there is more to the story than what we know. We often have customers who are very needy, but have a great attitude (Hi, I have Celiac so I need a gluten free meal plan, or I'm allergic to dairy, so let me know if anything is made with dairy and I won't eat that), but we get the other kind too, the kind that really think they are more special than any one else on the boat. Guess which kind pays $140 for a red go pro filter, and which kind pays $35.
I really need to come dive on the Spree. I'm the type of passenger that would want to help fill tanks, spray down the deck at the end of the day and just enjoy being in a 100% diving environment! No way others could ruin my experience! It's freaking diving!
 
... the kind that really think they are more special than any one else on the boat. Guess which kind pays $140 for a red go pro filter, and which kind pays $35.

Is that why you guys charged me $10 for a tube of AquaSeal that I could have gotten at any dive shop on the US mainland for $9.95?

Outrageous!!!!

(Nevermind that the nearest inhabited land was 6hrs away by boat, followed by a 3hr drive to the nearest airport, followed by a two-hour flight to the US, and another hour or two drive to the nearest dive shop.)
 
Is that why you guys charged me $10 for a tube of AquaSeal that I could have gotten at any dive shop on the US mainland for $9.95?

Outrageous!!!!

(Nevermind that the nearest inhabited land was 6hrs away by boat, followed by a 3hr drive to the nearest airport, followed by a two-hour flight to the US, and another hour or two drive to the nearest dive shop.)

We charged you? I'm embarrassed now. How do I refund you?
 
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We charged you? I'm embarrassed now. How do I refund you?

Well, I did keep the whole tube (which was unopened at the time) so I guess if you just send me back the nickel we can call it even.

:d
 
As usual everyone is the star of their own movie. Wookie and Roatan Joe have their perspective, Wookie due to his years of beneficent but endearingly curmudgeonly captaining having to put up with the personalities of so many over the years. Joe because he was recently yelled at by a sociopath with an agenda and it still rankles.

Yes, there's generally two sides to every story but from my perspective as the generally delighted diver paying for a special experience (and having suffered unwanted attentions to the detriment of others) and a diver who often needs a bit of help due to injuries etc., a diver who brings far too many batteries to the far ends of the earth, but leaves them behind along with new SMBs and such, well, let's just say my perspective differs.

Also, it should be noted that different cultures see some things differently than those from the rough and tumble colonies.

My perspective sees what poster 1300 sees. Little things that may have been completely overlooked and forgotten as one offs stacked upon each other become like a burr under the saddle. Or in my case the pea under the mattresses.
 
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