coralreefer_1
Contributor
Hello all.I am here once again to tap into the vast knowledge of the members here to answer a question I have.
First, I should start by saying I am currently doing my DM training under an SDI affiliated instructor here in S. Korea. Prior to this level, I did my OW, AOW and Rescue courses with a PADI instructor also here in S. Korea
I chose the SDI instructor for several reasons I wont bother you all with again ( I posted about it before)
Over the last weekend with my SDI instructor...we were reviewing unresponsive diver scenarios. I noted several differences between the PADI and SDI training. Although I asked my instructor about "why" things were done differently on a few occasions, because of the culture here and fearing my instructor might feel insulted somehow as if I was comparing the past training with the present, i kept my curiosity at a minimum.
What I want to ask about on this forum however, is the reasoning for the order in which things are done, and why they are different? I am sure each agency has its logic...and I heard a bit about it from my instructor...but I would also like to hear a more clear answer (in my own language so that I can be sure of the info)
1. In PADI rescue course, I was taught that after discoving an unresponsive diver, signaling/trying to get their attention, and turning them over...the first thing done is to establish their buoyancy, then mine. Next was to call for help, then remove weights/mask/reg...10 seconds check, then begin rescue breaths
In my SDI DM review of the same thing, I was told that after turning the unconscious diver over, to forgo establishing more buoyancy for the victim or myself, to remove weights/mask reg...then 10 seconds check...and if not breathing to THEN signal or call for help, following by ther rescue breaths. I wonder what the reasoning is for the difference of WHEN the call for help is made?
2. On the same token...in my PADI rescue course, I was taught that after the first 2 initial rescue breaths...each following breath should come every 5 seconds. With SDI..it was every 10 seconds. IM not sure if that difference has any real advantage to the heath of the victim, or otherwise allows more time between breaths for a faster equipment removal and movement to the boat/shore...but as in line with number 1...i would love to hear others opinions about why that is done.
NOTE: I do not mean this as a PADI vs SDI post. I am not trying to compare the two. My mission is to fill in some gaps for my own knowledge about why I am currently doing this or that which is slightly ( and not likely significantly) different to better my own understanding. I am from the US, but all of my training to date has been in Korea..in Korean language. While I do understand Korean very well, between the nature of the material being taught, the "dialect" of the kinds of people that typically are divers here...and the culture which more or less reinforces the idea of dont ask to much...just do what you are told...I thought I might come here to get some more knowledge.
Forgive for the long post~
First, I should start by saying I am currently doing my DM training under an SDI affiliated instructor here in S. Korea. Prior to this level, I did my OW, AOW and Rescue courses with a PADI instructor also here in S. Korea
I chose the SDI instructor for several reasons I wont bother you all with again ( I posted about it before)
Over the last weekend with my SDI instructor...we were reviewing unresponsive diver scenarios. I noted several differences between the PADI and SDI training. Although I asked my instructor about "why" things were done differently on a few occasions, because of the culture here and fearing my instructor might feel insulted somehow as if I was comparing the past training with the present, i kept my curiosity at a minimum.
What I want to ask about on this forum however, is the reasoning for the order in which things are done, and why they are different? I am sure each agency has its logic...and I heard a bit about it from my instructor...but I would also like to hear a more clear answer (in my own language so that I can be sure of the info)
1. In PADI rescue course, I was taught that after discoving an unresponsive diver, signaling/trying to get their attention, and turning them over...the first thing done is to establish their buoyancy, then mine. Next was to call for help, then remove weights/mask/reg...10 seconds check, then begin rescue breaths
In my SDI DM review of the same thing, I was told that after turning the unconscious diver over, to forgo establishing more buoyancy for the victim or myself, to remove weights/mask reg...then 10 seconds check...and if not breathing to THEN signal or call for help, following by ther rescue breaths. I wonder what the reasoning is for the difference of WHEN the call for help is made?
2. On the same token...in my PADI rescue course, I was taught that after the first 2 initial rescue breaths...each following breath should come every 5 seconds. With SDI..it was every 10 seconds. IM not sure if that difference has any real advantage to the heath of the victim, or otherwise allows more time between breaths for a faster equipment removal and movement to the boat/shore...but as in line with number 1...i would love to hear others opinions about why that is done.
NOTE: I do not mean this as a PADI vs SDI post. I am not trying to compare the two. My mission is to fill in some gaps for my own knowledge about why I am currently doing this or that which is slightly ( and not likely significantly) different to better my own understanding. I am from the US, but all of my training to date has been in Korea..in Korean language. While I do understand Korean very well, between the nature of the material being taught, the "dialect" of the kinds of people that typically are divers here...and the culture which more or less reinforces the idea of dont ask to much...just do what you are told...I thought I might come here to get some more knowledge.
Forgive for the long post~