Solved: Who am I talking to?

[lowviz]

@The Chairman

Dear sir,
Would you consider making dive professionals (DM and above) immediately distinct from 'just divers' on this fine social board? I gain a lot of insight by being able to determine the 'flavor' of the poster and have recently been greatly surprised to learn of their professional status. I find this to be most unsettling.

It matters. You (posters) are or aren't posting as a professional. The unwashed massed don't always know this. Your SB persona does not reflect this as it should. No, we aren't all the same. Professionalism comes with obligations, titles, and transparency.

Show yourselves...

 

[lowviz]

@Trace Malinowski , @Bubblesong : sorrrrry...

But at least it is a Professional fight!

 

[northernone]

@Trace Malinowski , @Bubblesong : sorrrrry...

But at least it is a Professional fight!

Do those cost extra to watch?

If I take off my credentials can I hussle my way into a non professional fight?

 

[MaxBottomtime]

I have training up to Assistant Instructor. I worked at a dive shop for eight years. I captain my boat each time we dive. I research and find new reefs and wrecks to dive. I read and try to keep up with the latest thoughts on diving procedures. I try to get in at least two dives a week, hopefully more often. I still wouldn't expect people to trust every opinion I have on Scubaboard.

 

[drbill]

I've met far too many DMs and instructors who had far less experience than a number of the divers on this board. I had one instructor who couldn't attach her mask strap and put her BCD on her tank 90 degrees off (and said that was the way she'd always done it). I've met young instructors who weren't even born when I started diving (nor were their parents). Of course most of the dive professionals I know are wonderful and very knowledgeable people.

 

[Cowfish Aesthetic]

But only if you are a forum Nazi.

I really don't think the Cunningham thread of this conversation has been sufficiently appreciated.

You posted :

"Kharon said Well then, that really speaks to my perception of dive professionals. No standards, no ethics."

and replied



That was NOT MY post. You took it out of context. Here is what I actually posted:

"Agressive is one thing. A trumpistic put down is quite another and deserves rebuttal. Here's what he said after a number of honest replys:

Well then, that really speaks to my perception of dive professionals. No standards, no ethics."

And what the heck is ^Butthurt anyway?

Lol you've now misunderstood both of my posts, neither of which were about you. Reread them, Google butthurt, I think you'll find we agree. Pm me if you're still unsure.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

That was the point Bob, and I noted this right there. You're the one exaggerating what I said, but you can't see that. Here let me quote what I posted and embolden the salient part. Perhaps you'll read it this time.


Please listen to your own advice, Bob.

Is it? Didn't you just post this?

"easily get them in trouble?" How? What kind of trouble? What are the possible outcomes? Without any examples of divers actually getting in trouble by using the Perdix, you're raising the specter that they could 'easily' be injured and possibly die. FWIW, misprogramming any PDC can "easily get them in trouble". Why is the Perdix any different in this regard?

Bob. Bob. Bob. You responded to me first. It's a two-way street. You made it personal when you suggested that I said something I didn't. Of course, you won't see your own mistakes... you just want to blame me all the time. I'm not the one getting butthurt with a simple dialog. I haven't called you a name. I haven't discussed your lineage in any form. I've simply disagreed with you and all of a sudden you claim that I'm making things "personal".

Disagreeing with someone isn't making things "personal". That's all in your mind and not my intent. You resort to this argument almost everytime we disagree on something. You tell me not to respond to you anymore but then you respond to me. It's tiresome and misrepresents me and my motives. You're taking constructive dialog in a way it was never intended to be taken. I'm not making it personal as much as you're simply taking it that way. Disagreeing with someone isn't making it personal. I'm not your enemy and respect you for the most part. We actually agree more than we disagree. Please learn to accept disagreements without attaching nefarious intent to them. Please! It would be a very boring place if we had to agree with each other all the time. Also, don't blame me for responding to you after you respond to me. That's just not fair.

Pete, note the difference between my posts to others and your posts to me. The difference is that I addressed the content of their posts, not questioned them personally. You don't do that. Not now, not ever. You attack people you disagree with personally. And I'm tired of it.

Pete, nobody in the history of ScubaBoard has ever discouraged conversation more than you have. And you've done it again. I'm done with this post. Every time I venture out of The Pub I end up regretting it. And most times it's because of you. You just seem to enjoy dragging these conversations into the gutter. I don't get it. If it was anybody else doing it, the mods would put a stop to it. But, like Congress, you're exempt from your own rules.

Done wasting my time here ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[dmaziuk]

It is my continued observation that true newbies are absolutely thrilled to get an honest hand-holding answer to a question that has been answered scores of times.

:shrug: That's what FAQs are for but someone has to maintain them. There was a point when crowd-source rating systems were hot, but we're past that now, it ended up with 2 basic setups. "Social" sites "like" people and have a natural tendency to devolve into FB's circlejerk. Specialized Q&A sites like stackoverflow rate the answers, and as long as you don't have operators gaming the site, they tend to work what you're asking for.

Search engines suck even when you know enough of the answer to ask the right question, and enough about the engine to ask the question right. There's TMI to find what you seek by just browsing the threads.

Welcome to the digital age.

 

[The Chairman]

You attack people you disagree with personally.

What attack? A disagreement is not an attack. Disagreeing with someone is not making it personal. Why treat it as such? Please show how I attacked you.

I'm done with this post.

Oh, the drama. The only one taking this into the gutter is you, Bob. You don't like it when people disagree with you. You absolutely abhor it when I do. It's not me. But at least now we know who we're talking to. Simply put me on ignore and be done with me.

You can tell a lot about a person by how they react to disagreement and/or criticisms. Do they get defensive? Do they overreact? Do they blame everyone else but themselves? It doesn't matter whether they are or used to be a professional if they can't handle a simple disagreement with aplomb. It's impossible to have a conversation when they turn everything you say into being a personal attack against them.

 

[lowviz]

...//... Search engines suck even when you know enough of the answer to ask the right question, and enough about the engine to ask the question right. There's TMI to find what you seek by just browsing the threads. ...

SB's search engine is nothing to write home about. Just go to Google, preface your search with Scubaboard, and type in everything that relates to what you are interested in finding.

However, as a blanket statement, you couldn't be more wrong about search engines. I spent many years doing searches on some phenomenal search engines.

...//... Welcome to the digital age.

Thank you. But I still remember the consternation in 1974 when the first digital IC dual inline packages were being stamped with a four-digit date code and 74XX as the product code. I like to think of that as my welcome to the digital age.

 

[Steve_C]

One third are nice people but they stammer and stutter, between the “ah’s” “um’s” and distracting awkwardness of them trying to teach something.
The second third are good speakers, convey the info in a comprehensive manner, and are knowledgeable and likable.
And the last third are arrogant pricks, which are completely useless.

But that does not make number 1 and 2 good teachers. Do they pay attention to where the student is at. Do they try to make sure the student understands the important ideas in their own terms. If they see the student is having trouble with an idea do they go back and try to reinforce it. A good presentation can be no more than playing a video tape. A good teacher will work with the student and guide them and work from where the student is at. That may mean going through parts of the material more slowly than planned. It may involve repeating it again a few times.

Personally I think it is more in coaching and guiding and helping develop skills and knowledge than lecturing.