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12 boys lost in flooded Thai cave

Discussion in 'Search & Rescue' started by Dogbowl, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. Flynn Colorado

    Flynn Colorado Registered

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    I’m anxious to see any in-depth articles from diving magazine sources that will assuredly come out.

    If anyone is aware of any, please post
     
  2. ibj40

    ibj40 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Was waiting to see the technical diving community's take on the 20/20 show.

    My only comment is that the reporter kept going back and forth between air and oxygen.
     
  3. lermontov

    lermontov Contributor

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    PLEASE NO -i'tll start with some hard assed ex marine getting a call from his old army buddy to get over to Thailand to lead the charge in single handily rescuing the kids, Hell leave his girlfriend ( a nurse or paramedic) and fly over to bully the Thai seals into doing it his way amid the occasional satellite phone call to his girl who will advise him what to do to administer medical aid to the victims, It will finish with him walking out of the cave with his wets suit midriff carrying a kid showing his amazing abs and somewhere in the scene an Amercian flag is flying. In the background the approving smile of the military commanders and politicians- oh yes forgot about the cans of coca cola stacked in the supplies area.
     
  4. ReefieRN

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    I have a few questions about the situation in the cave.
    - When the cave was flooding the current would be moving into the cave. If that is the case water rises and the kids/coach were carried inward until they were able to "land" on the ledge.
    - Am I correct in assuming that their route of rescue was different as a result of h20 being pumped out of the cave?
    - Did the current change flowing outward during rescue? I heard one "expert" caver say this during an interview.
    - Would their rescue have been less risky by getting them out on the same route as they came in when the h20 was at a deeper level? As a result wouldn't they have been able to avoid the squeeze area?

    I may be making many assumptions and not taking into account their health, lack of skills and all the unknowns etc. Not being an engineer or caver please excuse my ignorance. I am just trying to get the big picture view of the mechanics of this incident.

    The safe rescue of these individuals was a true miracle. Mazel to all the divers and support personnel involved. Condolences to the family of the SEAL who lost his life.
    Thank you for your input.
     
  5. Coztick

    Coztick Contributor

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    I believe it was ground water from the rains that flooded all the lower sections of the cave.
    They were trapped by the rising water, not carried further in by the water.
    If that makes sense.
    Same route used coming out.
     
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  6. ReefieRN

    ReefieRN Registered

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    So what you are saying is they walked in and as ground h20 seeped in they went for higher ground.
    So that squeeze point was above them as they were walking in.
    Do I have this right?
     
  7. Jay

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    An interesting local article: The moment the Thailand cave rescue almost went horribly wrong

    some quotes from it:

    "Diving through and on into chamber three was "like diving in sumps, like the s-bend on your toilet. That's what it's like", one of the divers said"

    "The Australians, who usually perform black water search operations, were unable to go beyond chamber three as they were held back by their equipment, which would get stuck in even narrower spaces. "More technical divers and cave divers use rebreathers, which is a technical package, or side mounts [oxygen tanks].""
     
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  8. admikar

    admikar DIR Practitioner

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    Do they plan on taking equipment out now or waiting dry season, sealing off the cave in the meantime?
     
  9. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

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    apparently the pumps failed and the cave flooded.
     
  10. SailorJoe

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    Just read that article Jay. Those pumps did fail at the end of the operation. Very close call indeed. The effort by the Aussies too...just fantastic.
     

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